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GA nominations

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Albums

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This includes record albums, soundtracks, and video albums.
  1. Lucid (Aṣa album) (talk | history | start review) (1 review, 10 GAs) Versace1608 (talk) 20:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
  2. The Click (album) (talk | history | start review) – 2017 album by AJR – (0 reviews, 2 GAs) Koopastar (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
  3. Born in the U.S.A. (talk | history | start review) (39 reviews, 75 GAs) Zmbro (talk) 14:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
    Note: Co-nominated with Moisejp
  4. Something Else from The Move (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 13 GAs) VirreFriberg (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  5. Life Cycle (Sakerock album) (talk | history | start review) (9 reviews, 7 GAs) IanTEB (talk) 21:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
  6. Horses (album) (talk | history | start review) (1 review, 6 GAs) Holiday56 (talk) 02:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  7. A Storm in Heaven (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 13 GAs) MusicforthePeople (talk) 13:59, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
  8. Songs from How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying (talk | history | start review) – 2012 EP by Nick Jonas – (0 reviews, 1 GA) Artmanha (talk) 01:36, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  9. People...Hold On (talk | history | start review) (3 reviews, 2 GAs) Reppop (talk) 15:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
  10. 80's Ladies (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 0 GAs) HereIGoAgain (talk) 02:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
    Note: The article was re-nominated due to an error in prose, spelling that caused the GA nomination (at that time) to fail and has been subsequently addressed in a copyedit request, fixing those issues.
  11. The Feminine Divine (talk | history | start review) (142 reviews, 128 GAs) BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
  12. Blood & Chocolate (talk | history | start review) (39 reviews, 75 GAs) Zmbro (talk) 21:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  13. An Evening with Silk Sonic (talk | history | start review) (207 reviews, 49 GAs) MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:12, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Songs

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This includes songs from any era.
  1. Stronger (Kanye West song) (talk | history | start review) – 2007 single by Kanye West – (584 reviews, 97 GAs) Kyle Peake (talk) 14:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
  2. Why (Gen Hoshino song) (talk | history | start review) (9 reviews, 7 GAs) IanTEB (talk) 19:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
  3. Da Funk (talk | history | start review) – 1995 single by Daft Punk – (2 reviews, 5 GAs) LunaEclipse (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
  4. I Wonder (Kanye West song) (talk | history | start review) (584 reviews, 97 GAs) Kyle Peake (talk) 20:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
  5. Cómo Se Cura una Herida (talk | history | start review) (10 reviews, 111 GAs) Magiciandude (talk) 22:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
  6. The Alchemy (talk | history | start review) – 2024 song by Taylor Swift – (37 reviews, 62 GAs) Ippantekina (talk) 07:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
  7. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? (talk | history | discuss review) – 2024 song by Taylor Swift – (37 reviews, 62 GAs) Ippantekina (talk) 07:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
    On hold: this article is awaiting improvements before it is passed or failed. (6 reviews, 0 GAs) Medxvo (talk) 07:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
  8. Zari (song) (talk | history | start review) – 2024 song by Marina Satti – (0 reviews, 11 GAs) Nascar9919 (talk) 04:57, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
  9. PSA (song) (talk | history | discuss review) – 2023 song by SZA – (14 reviews, 15 GAs) PSA (talk) 00:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
    On hold: this article is awaiting improvements before it is passed or failed. (13 reviews, 3 GAs) Dxneo (talk) 01:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  10. Face to Face (Daft Punk song) (talk | history | discuss review) – 2003 single by Daft Punk – (3 reviews, 2 GAs) Reppop (talk) 20:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
    On hold: this article is awaiting improvements before it is passed or failed. (20 reviews, 14 GAs) Lazman321 (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  11. Not in Love (Crystal Castles song) (talk | history | start review) (18 reviews, 35 GAs) Skyshifter (talk) 22:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
  12. Your Girl (talk | history | start review) (18 reviews, 6 GAs) Heartfox (talk) 02:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
  13. Bring Me to Life (talk | history | start review) – 2003 song by Evanescence – (0 reviews, 3 GAs) Lapadite (talk) 13:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
  14. Dance the Night (talk | history | start review) (35 reviews, 76 GAs) MaranoFan (talk) 18:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
  15. Training Season (talk | history | start review) (35 reviews, 76 GAs) MaranoFan (talk) 18:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
  16. Hay Amores (talk | history | discuss review) (0 reviews, 0 GAs) 1arch (talk) 16:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
    On hold: this article is awaiting improvements before it is passed or failed. (328 reviews, 144 GAs) Sammi Brie (talk) 23:26, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
  17. Cómo Dónde y Cuándo (talk | history | discuss review) – 2024 song by Shakira – (0 reviews, 0 GAs) 1arch (talk) 08:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
    On hold: this article is awaiting improvements before it is passed or failed. (14 reviews, 15 GAs) PSA (talk) 07:43, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
  18. The American Dream Is Killing Me (talk | history | start review) – 2023 single by Green Day – (0 reviews, 2 GAs) Leafy46 (talk) 18:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
  19. Outside (Mariah Carey song) (talk | history | start review) (18 reviews, 6 GAs) Heartfox (talk) 20:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
  20. I'm in It (talk | history | start review) (584 reviews, 97 GAs) Kyle Peake (talk) 21:21, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
  21. I Wanna Be Your Ghost (talk | history | start review) – 2022 single by Gen Hoshino – (9 reviews, 7 GAs) IanTEB (talk) 17:51, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
  22. Stayaway (talk | history | start review) – 2919 song by American band Muna – (6 reviews, 57 GAs) Changedforbetter (talk) 18:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
  23. Who the Hell Is Edgar? (talk | history | discuss review) – 2023 song by Teya & Salena – (0 reviews, 11 GAs) Nascar9919 (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
    Review: this article is being reviewed (additional comments are welcome). (56 reviews, 27 GAs) Grnrchst (talk) 15:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
  24. Moon (Kanye West song) (talk | history | start review) (584 reviews, 97 GAs) Kyle Peake (talk) 20:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  25. Bottle Pop (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 3 GAs) MrHyacinth (talk) 00:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
  26. The Tortured Poets Department (song) (talk | history | start review) – 2024 song by Taylor Swift – (37 reviews, 62 GAs) Ippantekina (talk) 04:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  27. If I Thought You'd Ever Change Your Mind (talk | history | start review) – Song written by John Cameron – (0 reviews, 13 GAs) VirreFriberg (talk) 21:29, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Other music articles

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This includes music awards, music by nation/people/region/country, music genres, music styles, music eras, musical theory, musical instruments, music techniques, music businesses and events, music compositions, performers, groups, composers, and other music people.
  1. Pete Astudillo (talk | history | start review) – American singer – (62 reviews, 53 GAs) AJona1992 (talk) 16:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
    Nominator inactive for 27 days
  2. Eurovision Song Contest 2000 (talk | history | start review) – International song competition – (3 reviews, 33 GAs) Sims2aholic8 (talk) 22:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
  3. Swim School (talk | history | start review) – Scottish indie rock band – (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 08:38, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
    Note: Co-nominated with Georgeykiwi
  4. Eurovision Song Contest 1975 (talk | history | start review) – International song competition – (3 reviews, 33 GAs) Sims2aholic8 (talk) 11:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
  5. Simone Murphy (talk | history | discuss review) (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 15:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
    Review: this article is being reviewed (additional comments are welcome). (17 reviews, 4 GAs) Kimikel (talk) 02:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
  6. Vince Gill (talk | history | start review) – American country musician (born 1957) – (70 reviews, 60 GAs) TenPoundHammer (talk) 03:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  7. Eurovision Song Contest 1984 (talk | history | start review) – International song competition – (3 reviews, 33 GAs) Sims2aholic8 (talk) 16:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  8. Cheryl Baker (talk | history | start review) – British singer – (142 reviews, 128 GAs) BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:39, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
  9. Wo gehest du hin? BWV 166 (talk | history | start review) – 1724 church cantata by Johann Sebastian Bach – (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
  10. Slowcore (talk | history | start review) – Subgenre of alternative and indie rock music – (22 reviews, 10 GAs) Anarchyte (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
  11. Eurovision Song Contest 1985 (talk | history | start review) – International song competition – (3 reviews, 33 GAs) Sims2aholic8 (talk) 16:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
  12. Chapel Hart (talk | history | start review) – Country music group from Mississippi – (70 reviews, 60 GAs) TenPoundHammer (talk) 10:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
  13. The Celebration Tour (talk | history | start review) – 2023–2024 concert tour by Madonna – (1 review, 18 GAs) Chrishm21 (talk) 00:52, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
  14. John Koerner (talk | history | start review) – American singer-songwriter (1938–2024) – (0 reviews, 0 GAs) Mehendri Solon (talk) 21:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
  15. Honey Revenge (talk | history | start review) – Los Angeles pop-rock band – (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 19:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
    Note: Co-nominated with Georgeykiwi
  16. Quannnic (talk | history | start review) (18 reviews, 35 GAs) Skyshifter (talk) 18:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
  17. Daniel Vangarde (talk | history | start review) – French songwriter and producer (born 1947) – (3 reviews, 2 GAs) Reppop (talk) 06:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
  18. Bruno Mars at Park MGM (talk | history | start review) – Residency show – (207 reviews, 49 GAs) MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:10, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
  19. Priscilla Chan (singer) (talk | history | start review) – Hong Kong pop singer – (0 reviews, 0 GAs) Will629 (talk) 17:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
  20. Zwei Gesänge, Op. 1 (Schoenberg) (talk | history | start review) – Lieder by Arnold Schoenberg – (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
  21. Glow in the Dark Tour (talk | history | start review) – 2007–08 world concert tour by Kanye West – (584 reviews, 97 GAs) Kyle Peake (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
  22. Dead Pony (talk | history | start review) – Scottish pop punk band – (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 12:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
    Note: Co-nominated with Georgeykiwi
  23. Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (talk | history | start review) – American band – (70 reviews, 60 GAs) TenPoundHammer (talk) 08:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
  24. Wargasm (talk | history | start review) – British electronic rock duo – (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 10:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
    Note: Co-nominated with Georgeykiwi and Issan Sumisu
  25. Maisi (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 11:07, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
  26. George Daniel (talk | history | start review) – Belgian-British drummer – (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 08:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  27. Rhian Teasdale (talk | history | start review) – English musician – (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 10:37, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  28. Herr Jesu Christ, du höchstes Gut, BWV 113 (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
  29. Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 33 (talk | history | discuss review) (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
    Review: this article is being reviewed (additional comments are welcome). (2 reviews, 0 GAs) BigChrisKenney (talk) 06:43, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
  30. Keyshia Cole (talk | history | start review) – American singer (born 1981) – (0 reviews, 0 GAs) Finesse2Starz (talk) 16:21, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
  31. Bini (group) (talk | history | start review) – Filipino girl group – (3 reviews, 0 GAs) Royiswariii (talk) 06:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
    Note: Co-nominator: AstrooKai and Borgenland, these users have significantly contributed to this article
  32. Henry Donch (talk | history | start review) – German-American bandleader (1834–1919) – (43 reviews, 68 GAs) Generalissima (talk) 23:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
  33. Alexander Goehr (talk | history | start review) – English composer and academic (1932–2024) – (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
  34. Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan, BWV 99 (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
  35. Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91 (talk | history | discuss review) (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
    Review: this article is being reviewed (additional comments are welcome). (16 reviews, 9 GAs) Llewee (talk) 14:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  36. Tommy Villiers (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 7 GAs) Launchballer (talk) 05:02, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
  37. Liebster Gott, wenn werd ich sterben, BWV 8 (talk | history | discuss review) – Church cantata by J.S. Bach – (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
    Review: this article is being reviewed (additional comments are welcome). (33 reviews, 14 GAs) Aza24 (talk) 04:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
  38. Fredy Clue (talk | history | discuss review) – Swedish musician and artist (born 1995) – (4 reviews, 8 GAs) Dugan Murphy (talk) 15:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
    Review: this article is being reviewed (additional comments are welcome). (66 reviews, 36 GAs) Vacant0 (talk) 20:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
  39. The Yeezus Tour (talk | history | start review) – 2013–2014 concert tour by Kanye West – (584 reviews, 97 GAs) Kyle Peake (talk) 18:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
  40. Stray Kids (talk | history | start review) – South Korean boy band – (0 reviews, 0 GAs) Shenaall (talk) 05:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
  41. Festivali i Këngës 62 (talk | history | start review) (0 reviews, 76 GAs) Iaof2017 (talk) 11:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
  42. Wo soll ich fliehen hin, BWV 5 (talk | history | start review) – Chorale cantata by Johann Sebastian Bach – (0 reviews, 136 GAs) Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
  43. Sarah Geronimo (talk | history | start review) – Filipino singer and actress (born 1988) – (0 reviews, 0 GAs) ScarletViolet (talk) 09:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
  44. San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 (talk | history | start review) – none – (23 reviews, 56 GAs) Grk1011 (talk) 20:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
  45. Naħseb Fik (talk | history | start review) – 2021 single by Aidan – (5 reviews, 1 GA) Sahaib (talk) 12:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
  46. Josip Runjanin (talk | history | start review) – Composer of the Croatian national anthem – (6 reviews, 14 GAs) Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 02:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Other music articles reassessments

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  1. GAR created: 19:13, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Deletion candidates

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Skew It on the Bar-B (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nothing I can find about this song shows that it passes WP:NSONGS. No chart positions, no certifications, only one reliable source that gives it equal weight as part of a list of multiple songs, a WP:BEFORE search could only provide me with unreliable and self-published databases/fansites. No evidence of notability to pass WP:NSONGS -- redirect to Aquemini. JeffSpaceman (talk) 14:45, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Robin Hood (album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. No indication of notability. 2 references in the article. One is a database listing (MusicBrainz). The other seems to be a fan-written analysis. See page 76: [1]. Written by someone called "BloodBoal", with some text from website movingmagemusic.com and the album booklet (primary source). Mika1h (talk) 13:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Hell Rell. as an ATD. Liz Read! Talk! 03:17, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Get in Line or Get Lined Up (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems to fail WP:NALBUM. I tried to draftify, but the article was recreated. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Redirect to Hell Rell. Found no reliable coverage beyond the RapReviews piece Chaotic Enby linked (regarded as a reliable source per RSMUSIC). No appearance of an NALBUM pass. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Hell Rell per previous arguments. Ss112 02:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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Better Days (Robbie Seay Band album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Give Yourself Away (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Robbie Seay Band Live (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Articles about albums, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NALBUMS. As usual, Wikipedia's approach to albums used to extend an automatic presumption of notability to any album that was recorded by a notable artist regardless of sourcing or the lack thereof, in the name of completionist directoryism -- but that's long since been deprecated, and an album now has to have a meaningful notability claim (chart success, notable music awards, a significant volume of coverage and analysis about it, etc.) and WP:GNG-worthy sourcing to support it.
But none of these three albums are making any notability claim above and beyond "this is an album that exists", two of the three are completely unreferenced, and the one that does have references doesn't have good ones: it's citing one review in an unreliable source, and one "Billboard chart history" that lists no actual chart positions and is present only to footnote a release date that it doesn't actually support rather than any charting claims.
As always, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much more expertise in Christian music than I've got can find the right kind of sourcing to salvage them, but simply existing isn't "inherently" notable enough to exempt an album from having to pass GNG. Bearcat (talk) 14:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Absolute (Aion album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Aion (Aion album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Freak-Out (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Human Griefman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Z (Aion album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Five articles about albums not shown to pass WP:NALBUM. Back in the day, Wikipedia's approach to album notability was to extend an automatic inclusion freebie to any album recorded by a notable artist, regardless of its sourcing or lack thereof, in the service of completionist directoryism -- but that's long since been kiboshed, and albums are now independently notable only if they can be shown to pass WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about the album. But four of these five articles are completely unreferenced, and one is referenced solely to a single unreliable source directory listing that isn't support for notability.
It also warrants note that these were all briefly redirected to the band a year and a half ago for lack of independent sourcing, but that was reverted within 24 hours with no actual explanation provided of what the problem with redirecting them was, and they've continued to stand as unreferenced articles ever since, without ever having a whit of GNG-worthy sourcing added to any of them. Bearcat (talk) 13:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 14:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)