Talk:Miss Universe 2024/Archive 1

Archive 1

Usage of Iran or Persia at Miss Universe articles

Hello! I wanted to prevent an inevitable edit war in this article, I would like to have a discussion regarding if the article will stick to Persia, as the allowed representation, or Iran. The Iranian government disallowed the Miss Persia Organization to use the name "Iran" for the Iranian candidate as Miss Universe, thus the usage of the term "Persia". Allyriana000 (talk) 13:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Let's slow down here. Where are the sources that confirm A) Iran/Persia will compete, and B) this drama over the name. We cannot have a discussion until we know what the story is and have sources that back it up. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 15:50, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

I know this one gets fuzzy with stuff like Miss Universe Philippines 2024 including at least three individuals who are Americans or American residents – two from one state, possibly one or more a US citizen. So there is already a potential for confusion over nation versus ethnicity. We've had an issue in the past with a certain pageant's sash that says "Korea" versus the selectees coming exclusively from South Korea. The consensus seems to have settled into using the correct flag, i.e. South Korea, and notation, but indicating that the sash says just Korea. Whichever way it goes with yea/nay on entry into this particular competition, I think we should try to adopt the solution that worked for Korea/South Korea; any mention of the nation should say "Iran" (flags too of course, if used), with a footnote or explanation that the sash will say "Persia". I'll just say as a wrap-up that it wouldn't be nearly as fraught if we just didn't use national flags in pageant articles. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

I actually do agree on this, to be consistent with the consensus since this was in effect with Korea (South Korea), USA (United States), Turkiye (Turkey), and the Slovak Republic (Slovakia). Regardless of what is said in the sash, we would still follow the common name of the country. Using the term "Persia" while "South Korea" is being used would be inconsistent and in turn would may cause a conflict. Allyriana000 (talk) 17:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Use of the ancient Persian flag or the Iranian flag on Wikipedia

I have seen on the Miss Universe Persia Instagram page that they are using an ancient Persian flag to carry at Miss Universe this year. So do we use the flag on this Wikipedia page or not? Wikipageant (talk) 03:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

miss universo Arabia Saudita 2024

Arabia saudita comfirmo su participación en miss universo 2024 en México 🇲🇽 2803:2D60:1040:2B8E:4008:A7B3:37FC:1E9C (talk) 17:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

That is now confirmed by the MUO to be false. 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Philippines 2024 - Finals

As recently announced by the national organization, it is to be set on May 22, not May 11. The preliminary reference (while waiting for news reports) came from the post made by the national organization in their official social media accounts. See the article to get the reference and edit the one here. Thanks. 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Somalia 2024

Halima Aden is appointed to be represented Somalia in Miss Universe 2024 on Mexico 🇲🇽... 110.54.190.72 (talk) 01:02, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Source?--BabbaQ (talk) 20:34, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

This is not simply plausible, as she previously judged MUO-affiliated pageants such as Miss USA and Miss Universe. You can't judge an international competition and join it the next year. It would be disadvantageous to the other delegates, who may see it as unfair. If she hadn't judged their affiliated pageants, then this would not be an issue at all. 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2024

The 100 Countries are Compete on Pageants 110.93.84.147 (talk) 15:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Let's not get hasty with the 100. Haluuu makes exaggerations sometimes, and fails to meet those expectations. She said on that on the 2023, there would be 90+, but it went down to just 84 on the final list. Let's not be impulsive, and just wait patiently for the official number. 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Sudán del Sur

Va a debutar este año Sudán del Sur 138.255.249.151 (talk) 20:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Esperemos que asi sea 2803:2D60:1052:A581:0:51:346F:7801 (talk) 03:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

There's no confirmation on her participation. She's interested, but that's just it. Until there is a national director that would announce her appointment, then that's just it. 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Germany 2024

Guys, please, if we are not allowed to edit or add information, add that the crowning date of Miss Universe Germany will be April 28 in Düsseldorf, this confirmed by the instagram of your national organization and your national leadership under Natalie Ackerman. Andiireyes1 (talk) 19:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

They added it, thank God. I can't edit here too. 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss samoa 2024

ahorita en wikipedia aparece samoa wow 187.132.219.37 (talk) 20:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Kenya

¿Why do they eliminate the return of Kenya? If the organization is true, under new national management and a foundation in Kenya that has already signed the Miss Universe license 2800:484:A97B:5200:8176:B317:A962:C958 (talk) 23:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Siempre es así aveces lo quitan el año pasado quitaron a Bangladesh new zelend Rumanía Suecia y nunca volvieron 187.132.219.37 (talk) 23:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Ya aparece de nuevo 187.132.219.37 (talk) 00:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Spanish Version

good day everyone, I hope you are well, the reason for this discussion is to ask a big favor from all the editors who are watching this page if they can now create the page in its Spanish version, since several of us cannot (we are not allowed), because it is taking a long time since we are two months away from the middle of the year and the page has not yet been created, we would be grateful if it can be possible, nice day 2800:484:A97B:5200:B183:2B11:20E1:2A7 (talk) 16:09, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Mexico 2024

the final date for the election of Mexico's representative in the international competition will be in the month of September in Cancun, already confirmed by the official Instagram of the national organization (missuniversemexicoorg). 2800:484:A97B:5200:B183:2B11:20E1:2A7 (talk) 16:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Set on Mexico Contestants 110.93.84.147 (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss belgium 2024 se quito

Belgium ya había enviado su candidata pero ahora desapareció de aquí ¿será otro de los Retirados? 189.129.80.62 (talk) 22:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

¿Será cierto?

Los posibles Retirados son las islas caimán, república checa y Ecuador(por el conflicto con México) 189.129.80.62 (talk) 22:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

no, no es cierto, pues Islas Caimán ya abrió inscripciones y tienen fecha final para su coronación, están en proceso de casting, República Checa está en trámites de una nueva franquicia o posiblemente sigan bajo la agencia de modelos "Ceska Miss Essens" y Ecuador es el más vigente de todos, que hasta ya las candidatas que viven en otros países están dirigiéndose a Ecuador. 45.225.224.195 (talk) 01:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Turks and Caicos

buenas noches para todos los lectores y editores de este artículo, hace unas horas una nueva franquicia bajo nuevos franquiciantes y organizacion nacional oficializó que el territorio de Ultramar Islas Turcas y Caicos volverá a la edición 2024 luego de 10 años de ausencia, para que porfavor sea agregado 45.225.224.194 (talk) 01:37, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe US Virgin Islands

buenas noches para todo el grupo, bajo el múltiple regreso de varías naciones a Miss Universo, las Islas Vírgenes de los Estados Unidos bajo una nueva organización oficializaron que este año vuelven a Miss Universo a celebrarse en México, por lo cual deberian agregar el retorno de este territorio, gracias por leer 45.225.224.196 (talk) 01:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

me puedes decir cuales son las demás que regresaran 189.129.80.62 (talk) 01:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

confirmados hasta el momento solo los anunciados y anexados a la página, los demás sólo son rumores a la espera de que puede suceder, por el momento esperar 45.225.224.195 (talk) 06:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss islas vírgenes de los Estados unidos

Este año regresa esta islaaa 189.129.80.62 (talk) 01:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

te estarás refiriendo a Islas Vírgenes de los Estados Unidos, porque las Islas Vírgenes Británicas si han competido de seguido en Miss Universo 45.225.224.195 (talk) 06:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss universe Bangladesh 2024

La cuenta oficial de miss universo confirmó que el pais de Bangladesh tiene nuevo director nacional y se espera de que esten de regreso en este 2024 2803:2D60:1016:73D2:0:48:5FBE:A301 (talk) 23:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss universe Costa de marfil

Costa de Marfil ya tiene página para Miss universo pero no se sabe si es para el 2024 o 2025 189.129.80.62 (talk) 18:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

en su página oficial de instagram dice que será en 2025, por lo cual no debe ser agregado este año 45.225.224.195 (talk) 01:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Al parecer estan asiendo lo posible para poder competir este año 2803:2D60:1016:73D2:0:48:5FBE:A301 (talk) 23:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Haiti

Miss Haiti 2024 is on August 17, 2024 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.150.219.98 (talk) 15:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Got any source for this news, even from their official Instagram account? 180.195.117.54 (talk) 13:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Aun no esta confirmado pero e escuchado que estan asiendo lo posible para regresar este año 2803:2D60:1016:73D2:0:48:5FBE:A301 (talk) 23:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Última hora Miss Universo 2024

SEGUN LA PAGINA OFICIAL DE SEÑORITA PANAMA MISS UNIVERSO 2024 SE LLEVARA ACABO EN LA CIUDAD DE MEXICO Y PRONTO SE DARAN NUEVAS NOTICIAS ¡ESTEN ATENTOS! 187.135.111.47 (talk) 02:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

¿PORQUE MISS BELGIUM 2024 FUE BORRADO?

La miss belgium 2024 es kenza ameloot y porque¿ no aparece? 187.135.111.47 (talk) 19:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss universo Tanzania 2024

La República de Tanzania ya confirmó mediante la página oficial de MUTanzania en instagram su participación fue por última vez en 2019. 187.135.111.102 (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss universe serbia 2024

Se cree que este año serbia va a regresar al miss universo ya que segun este país esta asiendo los tramites con MUO para poder competir este 2024 en México 2803:2D60:1059:9437:0:47:103E:8F01 (talk) 22:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

¡Que así sea! 187.135.111.47 (talk) 22:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

lo de Serbia ya se confirmó, tienen instagram y página web Andiireyes1 (talk) 18:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss arabia 2024

están en la 1era conferencia de prensa para debutar en MUAS 187.135.111.102 (talk) 21:05, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussions not in English

Good day, I have just noticed the amount of Spanish discussions on this talkpage despite it being on the English wiki, and what's worse is majority of these are mostly unverified information regarding the pageant. I do hope this can be addressed soon as it does not help in developing the encyclopedic quality of the article. I do see that the Spanish version of the article is now up, I guess it would be better if the said discussions can continue there. Thank you. Milesq (talk) 14:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss universe Butan 2024

Segun rumores el pais de butan este año podría regresar a miss universo 2024 2803:2D60:105F:CB93:0:5B:16D6:E801 (talk) 14:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe South Sudan

Amylia Deng is most probably to represent South Sudan in Miss Universe 2024 in Mexico 112.198.253.146 (talk) 20:38, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss universo Surinam 2024

Surinam acaba de confirmar su participación en miss universo 2024 2803:2D60:1036:95EE:0:53:C62D:3C01 (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Guatemala 2024

Guatemala is confirmed in 73rd Miss Universe. The Coronation Night will be held in May 31 2024 the end of May. The Reigning Miss Universe Guatemala 2023 Michelle Cohn will crown her successor at the end of the event finale. To be held in May 31 2024🇬🇹 112.198.253.140 (talk) 06:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Miss arabia saudita

será verdad de su debut? 187.135.111.102 (talk) 23:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Ayudaaaa

Alguien me dice como se ponen las bandas cuadradas alado del país porque nl se como ponerle 187.135.111.102 (talk) 20:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

miss universe Belarus 2024

la página oficial de miss universe Belarús acaba de confirmar de que este año aran su debut 2803:2D60:1011:802B:0:54:4467:5701 (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Moldova 2024

Moldova To Debut At Miss Universe 2024 in Mexico.🇲🇩 2001:FD8:B19A:37F:EC85:4386:1DF5:44AB (talk) 09:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Uruguay 2024

Uruguay regresa a Miss Universe ya esta confirmado 2803:2D60:104F:70FC:0:1:4E9D:2001 (talk) 03:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Switzerland 2024

Miss Universe Switzerland 2024 will take place on May 18. And who will be the next miss universe Switzerland.🇨🇭 112.198.228.145 (talk) 04:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Guatemala 2024

Miss Universe Guatemala 2024 will take place in May 31. And who will be the next Miss Universe Guatemala.🇬🇹 112.198.228.145 (talk) 04:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Angola 2024

Angola will upcoming in June 24, 2024. 49.237.203.40 (talk) 11:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss universo somalia 2024

Ya devuto pónganlo yaaa 187.135.111.47 (talk) 19:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Y quien es la representante 2803:2D60:1017:E920:0:5D:593F:8E01 (talk) 20:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Aun no lo han enviado pero la maxima favorita es halima aden la modelo famosa pero no esta confirmanfo 187.135.111.47 (talk) 21:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Halima confirmed that she will be competing in miss universe canada LousPlushies (talk) 17:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Togo 2024

Togo 🇹🇬 is all set to debut at 73rd Miss Universe to be held in Mexico. Togo was scheduled to confirmed in May 11 the first ever Miss Togo Universe 2024. 112.198.211.216 (talk) 21:52, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

The ig acc for the the togo org confirmed the winner isnt competing for mu and doesnt have license LousPlushies (talk) 02:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Estonia

Se cre que estonia regrese a miss universo en 2024 2803:2D60:1017:6216:0:42:8C14:8701 (talk) 11:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2024

I want to edit this page because I'm a pageant lover so if I see any updates for the upcoming muo2024 I can update here 143.44.192.179 (talk) 02:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself.

If you'd like to contribute regularly making an account is the best option - you just need to make 10 edits to non-protected pages and wait 4 days, then you'll be able to edit here. Jamedeus (talk) 04:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok 143.44.192.47 (talk) 06:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Montenegro

Montenegro is confirmed at June 8 2024 and who will be crown the next Miss Universe Montenegro🇲🇪 112.198.205.21 (talk) 01:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

{Argentina, Curacao} 120.29.78.87 (talk) 09:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RudolfRed (talk) 18:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Thailand 2024

The pageant to be on Friday of June 14 2024 124.104.202.78 (talk) 17:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Costa Rica 2024

In the official page of the new Miss Universe Costa Rica organization (as well as in their official Instagram account) they have already published that finals will be held on September 10th! Santijimenez44 (talk) 17:55, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe India 2024

India Was Date Upcoming Pageants Schedule 110.93.85.239 (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Laos 2024

Laos Upcoming Pageants Date schedule 110.93.85.239 (talk) 02:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2024

Tanzania - September 2024 49.36.33.162 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 10:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Central African Republic 2025

Central African Republic Debuts on Singapore on 74th Miss Universe Competition 110.93.85.239 (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe 2025

Singapore Annouced Host on 2025 upcoming Pageants this 2026 110.93.85.239 (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I really want an European Country to host the pageants to be honest. Catia108 (talk) 15:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2024

I want to edit this Miss universe page because I'm a fan of Pageants Catia108 (talk) 15:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Have autoconfirmed/extended confirmed access to your user account/article? If not, you are still not allowed to edit or move this article, or any article in the encyclopedia. LikeRealTimes (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. While it's great that you have found something you wish to edit, this is not how edit requests work. You cannot be granted rights by this process. Instead, describe exactly what edit you wish to make and see if someone does it for you or declines. Wish you well, QwertyForest (talk) 15:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Brazil 2024

Misssemcensura anounced that the national director anounced on 25 april 2024 that the miss brazil pageant will be in 27 September 2024. Who do you think is gonna be? Catia108 (talk) 15:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss universe 2024

The license holders of MU anounced that this years edition will have more than 120 delegates from all over the world competing Catia108 (talk) 15:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Haiti, Côte d'Ivoire returns & Moldova debuts

They already have an oficial account on instagram to send a delegate to the universe. Source:globallybeauty_pageants Catia108 (talk) 17:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Eswatini 2024

Eswatini 🇸🇿 is all set to return at 73rd Miss Universe Can you please save this candidate

Tania Nunn is Miss Universe Eswatini 2024. 112.198.228.15 (talk) 11:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe CR date

Can someone please add Costa Rica to the upcoming national pageants chart. The organization already announced that finals will be held on September 10th! You can check it on their official instagram bio and on their official website (www.missuniverse.cr) Santijimenez44 (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss universe brazil 2024 date

Can someone please add Brazil to the upcoming national pageants 27 September 2024. You can check it on the instagram account (@misssemcensura) on the 25 of april. Catia108 (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Upcoming National Pageants

Can someone please add these pageants for me please? Because I still have to do some normal edit til I can edit this page... Those are:

Brazil: 27 September 2024 (@misssemcensura) on 25 of april. Source:Instagram

Nepal: 31 August 2024 (@pageantreels) story. Source: Instagram

Tanzania: September 2024 (@missuniversetanzania) their last post. Source: Instagram Catia108 (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, unless it's from a primary source (like their official page) Instagram sources are to be disregarded as they do not follow WP:V guidelines. I hope this will be understood. Milesq (talk) 12:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Uzbekistan and Miss Moldova

Uzbekistan y Moldova debut at Miss Universe in Mexico Miss Uzbekistan is in August 30, 2024 190.150.146.185 (talk) 07:55, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

And where can we see that information? Catia108 (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Unvuerse Brazil 2024

The coronation night is on 19 September. Confirmed by their oficial instagram page (missuniversebrasiloficial) Catia108 (talk) 12:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

"According to Instagram"

@LikeRealTimes@Allyriana000 I have noticed in recently that certain information regarding participating countries have been added more frequently by some users which are allegedly according to Instagram. All they have is hearsay yet they are quite insistent on putting as they think its the "real info". How can we address this without resulting in an edit war? I do think its due to wanting to contribute but compromises the article's credibility and encyclopedic value via WP:V. Milesq (talk) 19:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, putting warnings at the infobox and the SoP section was in my mind, but it seems more like a threat than a warning. Speaking of Instagram, yeah, Instagram is not the right place to gather data. I mostly fact check every MU account on the social media app, and sometimes I wait for the MUO to announce them. But on some cases, I dig deeper through news outlets and external articles to find sources of certain countries (e.g. Gibraltar and Bonaire). So the conclusion is, it's okay to look at Instagram for PROOF only, but don't just add them like they're reliable sources amidst the WP:V policy. LikeRealTimes (talk) 02:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree with @LikeRealTimes, however there are some countries which are already confirmed by Miss Universe (through their National director posts) so those could be deemed as realiable. We should still used secondary sources as they are more reliable and signifies notability. Instagram is also not a good source as some accounts may be fakes. Allyriana000 (talk) 02:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@LikeRealTimes I did a check on one user's contributions and they seem to have a habit of replacing already reliable sources into Instagram ones as seen on Miss USA 2024. I did try to notify about their behavior on their talk page already and i hope they'll take it positively. Milesq (talk) 04:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Togo

@Urboyatwiki @LousPlushies, please cite your sources here, showing the confirmation of Togo's unparticipation. I've been looking through multiple sources and social media platforms, and still couldn't find anything related to Togo's refusal of participation. If you're basing on MissUUpdates on Instagram, please comprehend the captions even more. I've been through that page, and found nothing except a post confirming Togo's participation. Might as well look at Miss Univers Togo and look at their latest post. Please try to comprehend the posts because I am tired of looking for proof that Togo is not competing this year. Maybe these will settle things up and won't result to an edit war in the future. Thank you! LikeRealTimes (talk) 02:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Might as well ping @Markeuie, @Allyriana000 @Milesq for their opinions. LikeRealTimes (talk) 02:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding that, although there were claims of them not having the license (posted in their stories that expire on 24 hours), at the end of the day its still a claim unless with more tangible proof. And a single blogger saying that a certain country is not participating isn't completely enough since the poster doesn't even have the sole authority to say which countries should join or not. Since with the available public info we have right now she's crowned as Miss Universe Togo, I would say that shall stay that way until further notice since we can always remove her from the list if more information or proof debunking her participation arises. Thank you and good day. Milesq (talk) 02:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Organisation has NOT confirmed Togo’s participation in MU24 so, technically, should not be listed until it IS confirmed! Heidi bradshaw (talk) 20:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Should be done the same thing to Montenegro and Bonaire then. MUO haven't announced their participation, right? LikeRealTimes (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Remember, it is not everytime MUO have to announce the participation of every new country. LikeRealTimes (talk) 01:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gvf23, might as well explain? LikeRealTimes (talk) 03:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

This user @Gvf23 keeps on undoing my edit on the main article without correct understanding from the talk page. I am also careful not to cause an edit war between this user, as it would lead to ruining my reputation. I think he's somehow joining the bandwagon for deleting Togo's representation. LikeRealTimes (talk) 03:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Apparently, the participation of the country was confirmed to be false news. It was observed that the organization itself lacks preperation of the finale venue and time to crown its delegate and. Not to mention the quality of the candidates and the visual graphics in its social media accounts (e.g. their profile name/picture Miss "Univers" Togo, and the introduction videos of eack candidates.) Also to add, the rumored winner Débora Agbawudzo haven't updated her social media accounts as the winner of the national pageant, which adds up to the issue whether Togo is legitimate or is taking their own participation. Some people have contacted or messaged the Miss Universe Organization about this for them to take action to this incident, but for now we'll consider Togo's rights for participation in the Miss Universe 2024 competition, as well as the winner and the organization Miss Univers To go, hoaxes. With that, I'll ask every editors (with or without user accounts; just IP numbers) that re-adding the country in every part of the article is STRICTLY PROHIBITED until the issue is resolved, whether Togo's participation is confirmed or a false accusation by Togolese businessmen. Thank you! LikeRealTimes (talk) 13:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

@Milesq, @Allyriana000, @Bri, @Heidi bradshaw, @Zeodswk, @Markeuie, @Sciencefish, @Ayocarty, @Kannweame7961, and @Japemizen627, please be aware. Thank you everyone! LikeRealTimes (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

I always double and triple check my sources when I edit on pageants, especially if I watch it live. Thankyou for your help too! Heidi bradshaw (talk) 16:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Forgot to mention the following: @Editscontent2.9 and @Gvf23. LikeRealTimes (talk) 13:23, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

There is no issue other than that a WP:RELIABLE source needs to be provided. Note these organisations (such as MUO) are primary sources and Wikipedia articles should be based mainly on reliable secondary sources, per WP:RSPRIMARY. This is an encyclopaedia not the repository of publicity announcement's of any organisation Sciencefish (talk) 14:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Editing contestants

I need some help with editing the structure of the names and countries and hometowns of the contestants... What I mean by that is that if you go to MU2023 and then go to contestants, you'll see the name, country etc... everything small like very thin in every contestant. You know what I mean? Catia108 (talk) 14:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Kosovo Age

Please, can someone change the Moss Universe Kosovo age, she is 36 not 26 and I have no rights to edit the page. Source: https://prive.al/miss-universe-kosova-36-vjece-dhe-flet-gjashte-gjuhe/ 81.26.207.42 (talk) 09:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Moldova

Moldova is now have a representative candidate post on Instagram & TikTok the name is Sabrina Skk, she is the first ever Miss Universe Moldova 2024🇲🇩 180.195.116.113 (talk) 11:29, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Until Miss Universe or the Miss Universe Moldova Organization has released their national director/candidate, no Moldovan candidate will be added. We must have reliable references first. Allyriana000 (talk) 11:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Given the recent incident of Miss Saudi Arabia, its better to wait for an official announcement. Milesq (talk) 12:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Notes added to contestant section

Should a "notes" section be added to the contestant section for Miss Universe 2024?  Past national titles of major pageants could be listed here, as well as other noteworthy contributions.  Miss Teen USA 2024 and Miss USA 2024 have this so wondering if uniformity should be kept or do we think it's not a big deal? Molliward99 (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

No, this is trivial information and I don't think any pageant article should have this. The Selection of Participants and Debuts, returns, and withdrawals sections were added years ago to replace a Notes section because writing this in prose was more encyclopedic than a list of random facts. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 17:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Miss Gambia 2023-24

The newly crowned Miss Universe Gambia is Glorious Haddijatou Njie and Gambia returns to participate at 73rd Miss Universe Competition.

See the Miss Gambia Wikipedia. 112.198.209.49 (talk) 12:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Pakistan, Serbia, Bahrain pageants

Can someone add Pakistan, Serbia & Bahrain in the upcoming national pageants to July 2024? Their organization announced that their finals will be in July 2024 but they still don't have a certain date. Catia108 (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

A proper source needs to be provided first before adding it (WP:PROVEIT). Only then it can be added into the list. Milesq (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Norway 2024

the finale date coronation night of Norway in upcoming August 11 2024.👑🇸🇯 112.198.207.44 (talk) 09:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Maldives & Azerbaijan

Maldives is all set to debut in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition.🇲🇻

Azerbaijan is all set to return in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition, last competed in 2013.🇦🇿 112.198.207.44 (talk) 09:19, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Source LousPlushies (talk) 13:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Uruguay

Why did someone remove uruguay from upcoming national pageants? Their pageant is on 31 August. They have already announced their group of contestants as well.. Catia108 (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Your source is from MissUUpdates on Instagram, a pageant blog. Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Sources clearly states that social media sites like Instagram are only permitted if it comes from a primary source (and even then it is not usually recommended) and defintely not allowed to cite from pageant blogs like MissUUpdates, even if that information is correct. This is just ensuring the verifiability of the content being factual, encyclopedic, and follows notability guidelines. Milesq (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2024

Jmzlja2 would like a permission to edit Miss Universe 2024. 2001:FD8:21B9:C976:FC1A:9DDC:B63E:68BD (talk) 04:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Ligaturama (talk) 08:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Naming policy problem

At this point this has become an annual problem, why do some editors (old and new) fail to understand or follow the set guidelines by WP:COMMONNAME? It has been said time and time again not to change it because that's what the organization uses but still editors put it that way for some reason. I already put a reminder just in case. Milesq (talk) 17:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

In relation to this, do we think the footnotes indicating what name they are competing as necessary? Because some countries that use a different sash like USA don't have this yet some like DR Congo and Guinea do. Personally I think its a bit irrelevant, not to mention Wikipedia is not a repository for what the official information of the pageant is. With how this is going right now, we might end up having to put these in every year just because yet again a pageant fan pushes to use what the MUO uses; and that in itself is mundane and tedious with how repetitive it is. Asking for some answers from fellow editors that way we can establish a proper consensus with this. @Allyriana000, @LikeRealTimes @Sciencefish Milesq (talk) 18:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

This problem also affects the Binibining Pilipinas articles to be honest. However, in the case of Miss Universe, I personally think if push comes to shove, we have to do a footnote for every country that will be affected by WP:COMMONNAME. As much as we try to warn these users about changing the country's names to fit the candidates' sashes, someone would still do it. Allyriana000 (talk) 02:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

@Allyriana000 and just right now we had another incident of a user pushing the said names despite the footnotes. I don't want to go and reprimand every user that does as it may result in hounding the users, but at the same time the encyclopedic quality of the article is heavily compromised. I do suggest we make a general footnote instead? As adding too may footnotes may make it look very clunky in return. Milesq (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

ThaA general footnote would be better rather than having a separate footnote for every country. Allyriana000 (talk) 10:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

No footnotes needed. To me it's obvious who they are representing - you click the link it takes you to the appropriate pageant. Put a comment at the top of the table to follow wikipedia MOS, not the pageant conventions. Sciencefish (talk) 07:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

What about Other Asean Countries to debuts on Miss Universe like: Brunei and Timor-Leste. But we need that.. PickMe10 (talk) 20:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

An Guadeloupe and Panama Samed Both Date

Hello Guys, Sorry That's my Fault. I Removed Pakistan Namibia and Serbia from a Upcoming Pageants. Can someone fix the table It's my Mistake. LOL... Please Bina.biny99 (talk) 20:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Northern Cyprus 2025

Northern Cyprus Was Very soon on 74th Miss Universe 2025 110.93.86.245 (talk) 07:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Source for Miss Universe Senegal 2024 🇸🇳

@Allyriana000, @Milesq, I would like to write to you that there is debate on the source of Miss Universe Senegal 2024, so I would like to explain my modification. I am not adding a blog but a publication from the official Instagram account of Miss Universe Senegal 2024. This source, even if I recognize that it is not the best, is more relevant than the MSN link which does not even mention Miss Univers Senegal 2024 and is therefore of no use. Until a better secondary source comes out, I think leaving the Instagram link is relevant. T931201 (talk) 18:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

@T931201 I already added a better source needed tag for that case but for some reason @Catia108 keeps removing it since for them it is not needed despite it being the opposite. I think we can agree for now that it needs the [better source needed] tag until a better third-party reference is added or the MSN article gets updated (as the original version of the article before featured less delegates and more are added over time) since we all know Instagram references for pageant sources are generally discouraged. Milesq (talk) 18:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

@Milesq I'm also not sure why @Catia108 is removing the tag (I personally don't mind it) and it's fine to leave it until a better source is found or MSN is updated. T931201 (talk) 19:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

@T931201 Hi, just wanting to inform the MSN article has been updated, will now use that as the proper reference for Senegal (and Serbia too). Milesq (talk) 11:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Good evening @Milesq. Yes I saw that the MSN article had been updated and that you had put it as sources for Serbia and Senegal. Thank you for informing me of this.

T931201 (talk) 19:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Russia 2024

Russia Was Waiting For Announcement For Pegeants 112.201.164.159 (talk) 06:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Saint Lucia

Why is not showed New Miss Universe Saint Lucia. Please improve this 77.77.218.178 (talk) 10:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss South Sudan 2024

the 1st ever Miss Universe South Sudan 2024 is Amylia Deng and she will get the opportunity to represent her country in the upcoming 73rd Miss Universe Competition to be held in Mexico in November 2024. 112.198.228.111 (talk) 12:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

So please ask person to put South Sudan on Debuts 77.77.218.178 (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Provide a reliable source first, then the editors will add her to the list. Milesq (talk) 13:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm Active for this solution Bina.biny99 (talk) 13:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Contestants format

I have a question. Can someone explain to me how to put the contestants format perfect? I mean like for example the name "mara topić" it is just one box and not like double... Y'all know what I mean? Can someone tell me how I make that (if it is possible)... Catia108 (talk) 16:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I mean the table... sry Catia108 (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

and also all the categories in the contestants table... Catia108 (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

She is croatian descant. they live in Ecuador together. That's how saying 77.77.219.51 (talk) 10:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Miss South Sudan

Why is South Sudan is removed on Debuts, can someone else says.. Please fix that 77.77.219.51 (talk) 20:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

There are no reliable sources indicating South Sudan will debut except for an questionable account from Instagram that has been inactive for months. Unless we get more reliable information, only then South Sudan will be added to the list of debuting participants. Milesq (talk) 05:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

South Sudan will be announced soon until End of August or Maybe Bina.biny99 (talk) 18:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2024

Alejandra112 (talk) 05:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC) I just wanted to write the updates here!^

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Left guide (talk) 05:54, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

That's she vandal the pageantary 77.77.218.230 (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Latvia 2024

Miss Universe Latvia 2024 the Coronation Night will be held in August 29 2024.

The reigning Miss Universe Latvia 2023 Kate Alexeeva will crown her successor at the end of the event finale. 112.198.206.201 (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Nicaragua Universo 2024

Miss Nicaragua 2024 Coronation Night will be held in October 2024. The Reigning Miss Nicaragua 2023 Sheynnis Palacios will crown her successor at the end of the event. 112.198.206.201 (talk) 01:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Great prediction. So please We can put On upcoming pageants PickMe10 (talk) 08:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Ismeli Jarquin will be her successor PickMe10 (talk) 08:21, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Please provide a source before considering to add this on the list. Wikipedia is not a place for unverified content. Milesq (talk) 15:13, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Friendly reminder

To some fellow editors flooding this talkpage, please be reminded that this talkpage is NOT a forum for you all to discuss your opinions and predictions about the pageant, but rather a talkpage on how to improve the article's encyclopedic quality. This means your guesses on upcoming information regarding the pageant may be misunderstood by other editors here and cause false info to be disseminated. There are many pageant forum sites on the internet, but Wikipedia is not one of them. Milesq (talk) 15:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

May I add also that do not believe everything that is being posted in this talk page, especially if those are sent by IP addresses. This is most likely hearsay with no verifiable proof so it would be much better to fact-check yourself before considering to add said information. Milesq (talk) 15:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

This talkpage is a lot of predictions i think so 77.77.218.230 (talk) 18:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Date & Venue

Raul Rocha announced in an interview the Venue & Date of the Miss Universe pageant [1]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-dzZ8bv4WU/?igsh=Mm5ndXliZnB4b3Bp Catia108 (talk) 23:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

This is not a valid source, please read WP:RSSELF. In addition Instagram is generally unreliable per WP:RSPINSTAGRAM: As a social networking service, Instagram is covered by the following policies and guidelines: WP:SOCIALMEDIA, WP:RSSELF, WP:SPS and WP:UGC. Please use sources other than Instagram. Sciencefish (talk) 08:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2024

FatouBa123 (talk) 11:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC) Hello! I Would like to request an edit for Miss Universe 2024 article by this i would make sure to read the news 1st and not to troll any other contestants or create any fake newses.

Please Contact with editors to help you. 77.77.218.230 (talk) 13:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sciencefish (talk) 13:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Addition of country / Misses in the table

Good evening @Catia108, I don't know if you have seen our requests to @Milesq and myself but please stop adding countries in the table before the election has taken place and add the countries and the Miss elected in the table once the election is over, because there, it has no interest. T931201 (talk) 23:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

I understand. I will keep following the rules. Catia108 (talk) 23:42, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

@Bina.biny99we must wait until the elections are over before adding the countries to the table. @ Sciencefish, @Catia108 and @Milesq, can you reset it to normal please ? TTCP0906 (talk) 13:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@TTCP0906 Excuse Me! @Catia108 will be warned Bina.biny99 (talk) 17:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Sri Lanka

Sri Lanka competed in 2018 returning after 6 years. 77.77.218.128 (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Nigeria

The election is on 31 August. Confirmed by Miss world nigeria (top 5 miss world 2019) on a post from annejkn of sheynnis africa tour. Catia108 (talk) 10:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Is this a reliable source per WP:RS? Sciencefish (talk) 10:59, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

No There's not unfortunately. But if u go see this post, go to the comment section and you'll see her comment there... Catia108 (talk) 11:26, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

A comment on a social media post is not a reliable reference as per WP:RS standards. If possible just wait for a news article to further confirm. Milesq (talk) 13:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sciencefish can you please tell me that's not a circus 77.77.218.128 (talk) 12:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

So please stop posting links.. 77.77.218.128 (talk) 14:30, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@Catia108 is 100% true. 77.77.218.128 (talk) 14:32, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

? Sciencefish (talk) 15:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Cambodia 2024

will be announced on August 29th, 2024. Reference: https://www.instagram.com/p/C-pdrKVvMRv/?igsh=dTJ6YjduOHE2aXRo

175.100.11.14 (talk) 15:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

While Instagram sources are generally discouraged, I'll consider this as it is a primary source from the organtization. Milesq (talk) 18:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Withdraw of angola

Angola will withdraw this year and will return in 2025. Their national selection is on 30 November and it is already after the MU 2024 competition. And the candidate selected that day will have an entire year to prepare for MU 2025. Buisnesess have already spoken with the National director Leila Lopes and she confirmed it. So can anyone please put angola on withdrawals? Catia108 (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Please note that Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper, online news site, pageant news service or pageant fan site. it is an encyclopaedia, when editing Wikipedia to reflect current news, always ask yourself if you are adding something truly encyclopaedic and important, or mere trivia. If it is the latter, there may be no need to write about it. Thanks. Sciencefish (talk) 15:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Genuine question, how is the information of Angola's withdrawal from Miss Universe 2024 isn't encyclopedic or important enough to be included in this article? — ‎‎‎hhypeboyh 💬 • ✏️ 01:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

My reply quotes from Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and was directed at the user with regard to their ongoing lack of or poor citations (see their talk page). If the information has a good reference thats fine. Most of the sources here are from the organisers' social media accounts. Sciencefish (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah, it makes sense now. Thanks for clarifying. — ‎‎‎hhypeboyh 💬 • ✏️ 08:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand that Means but Angola had visa problems 77.77.218.230 (talk) 13:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Venue

The venue will be Arena CDMX just like in 2007. Catia108 (talk) 08:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2024

FatouBa123 (talk) 14:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 15:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe New Zealand 2024

The new organization of Miss Universe New Zealand just revealed the date for their finals on their Instagram (@missuniverse_newzealand). Finals are happening on September 28th!. SolonglondonTS (talk) 03:09, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Sounds great 77.77.219.168 (talk) 07:29, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Miss Universe Nepal 2024

The coronation Night will be on the 7 September 2024. Acording to the wikipedia website "Miss Universe Nepal 2024" Catia108 (talk) 16:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)