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Today's featured article for October 27, 2024
Hadji Ali (c. 1888–92 – 1937) was a vaudeville performance artist famous for acts of controlled regurgitation. Thought to be of Egyptian extraction, his feats included water spouting, smoke swallowing and nut and handkerchief swallowing followed by disgorgement in an order chosen by the audience. The mainstay of Ali's act was "water spouting". After swallowing 60 to 100 glasses of water at a time, he spouted it in a continuous stream sometimes for up to one minute. Ali's most famous stunt, and the highlight of his act, was drinking water followed by kerosene, and then acting by turns as a human flamethrower and fire extinguisher as he expelled the two liquids onto a theatrical prop. Ali had a dedicated following on the vaudeville circuit in the United States and performed for heads of state, including Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. After he died in England his body was offered to Johns Hopkins for study, though the offer was declined. (Full article...) Recently featured: Katy Perry Fusō-class battleships Umbriel Archive By email More featured articles About view – talk – edit – history – watch
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Thought this may be a good item for the MainPage template ...

1553 - Condemned as a heretic, Michael Servetus was burned at the stake just outside Geneva.

Too bad there is a NPOV tag. -- PFHLai 23:28, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mormon Extermination Order

...should have been linked as Missouri Executive Order 44, as that is the current title and the other title was deemed to violate NPOV Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 01:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Philadelphia (maintenance)
New articles (unused): 1999 Armenian parliament shooting
Omitted: Missouri Executive Order 44; Battle of Segale; Banská Bystrica; Ayub Khan (Field Marshal); Soviet submarine S-363
Included: Michael Servetus (6th appearance, last in 2010); Second Battle of Newbury (3rd appearance, last in 2010); West Florida (first appearance); Allen R. Schindler, Jr. (3rd appearance, last in 2010; 20th anniversary); 2005 civil unrest in France (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 10:49, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 27 October 2012

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On this day, October 27, 2012 - The deaths of three Muslim youths in the Clichy-sous-Bois suburb of Paris triggered four months of rioting by mostly youths of North African origins in various parts of France.

According to the article linked, two youths died, the third was injured, but survived.

Driftwood87 (talk) 23:59, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This page is no longer protected. Subject to consensus, you should be able to edit it yourself. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 13:56, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Moved to Ineligible: New York City Subway (maintenance); Banská Bystrica (maintenance); Armenian parliament shooting (maintenance)
Omitted: Michael Servetus (ineligible—maintenance); Second Battle of Newbury; West Florida; Allen R. Schindler, Jr.; 2005 French riots
Included: History of Philadelphia (first appearance; blurb previously featured Philadelphia, which doesn't mention the event); Missouri Executive Order 44 (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Černová massacre (first appearance); Ayub Khan (President of Pakistan) (6th appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Soviet submarine S-363 (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 06:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Æthelstan

Æthelstan, the first King of England, died on 27 October 939, 1075 years ago, so I think he would be a good On this day. I have nominated him to be Today's Featured Article on 27 October 2014, but the TFAs have not yet been selected that far ahead. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:29, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For OTD, births and natural deaths are only included on centennial anniversaries. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 00:25, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Moved to Ineligible: West Florida (maintenance); 2005 French riots (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Armenian parliament shooting
New articles (unused): Philip Berrigan; Michael D. Higgins/Irish presidential election, 2011
Omitted: History of Philadelphia; Missouri Executive Order 44; Černová massacre (ineligible—maintenance); Ayub Khan (President of Pakistan); Soviet submarine S-363
Included: Amsterdam (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Segale (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Banská Bystrica (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible; 70th anniversary); 2004 World Series (first appearance; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Omitted: Amsterdam; Battle of Segale; Banská Bystrica; 2004 World Series
Included: Missouri Executive Order 44 (4th appearance, last in 2013); Ayub Khan (President of Pakistan) (7th appearance, last in 2013); Soviet submarine S-363 (3rd appearance, last in 2013); 2005 French riots (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 10th anniverary)
Repeats: Second Battle of Newbury (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:11, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Amsterdam (maintenance)
Omitted: Missouri Executive Order 44; Ayub Khan (general) (ineligible—maintenance); Soviet submarine S-363; 2005 French riots
Included: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines/Turkmenistan (both rescued from Ineligible); West Florida (2nd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); New York City Subway (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Banská Bystrica (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Armenian parliament shooting (first appearance)
Repeats: Second Battle of Newbury (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:13, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Missouri Executive Order 44 (maintenance); Battle of Segale (maintenance); Philip Berrigan (maintenance); 2005 French riots (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands (TFA for 2017; moved from October 26)
Omitted: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines/Turkmenistan (both are ineligible) Second Battle of Newbury; West Florida; New York City Subway; Banská Bystrica; Armenian parliament shooting
Included: History of Philadelphia (2nd appearance, last in 2013); HMS Audacious (1912) (first appearance); Ayub Khan (President of Pakistan) (8th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Allen R. Schindler Jr. (4th appearance, last in 2012); Michael D. Higgins/Irish presidential election, 2011 (both: first appearance); Gabriel Báthory (first appearance); Oliver Leese (first appearance); Zoya Phan (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 03:25, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Soviet submarine S-363 (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands
New articles (unused): Operation Herrick; Pumpsie Green
Omitted: History of Philadelphia; Killing of Allen R. Schindler Jr.; Michael D. Higgins/Irish presidential election, 2011; Gabriel Báthory; Oliver Leese; Zoya Phan
Included: Missouri Executive Order 44 (5th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); 1946 Bihar riots (first appearance); 2004 World Series (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Mary Sidney (first appearance); Robert Hubert (first appearance); Judy LaMarsh (first appearance)
Repeats: HMS Audacious (1912) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Ayub Khan (President of Pakistan) (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total; 60th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:19, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

New articles (unused): Rex Shelley
Omitted: Missouri Executive Order 44; HMS Audacious (1912); 1946 Bihar riots; Ayub Khan (general); 2004 World Series; Mary Sidney; Robert Hubert; Judy LaMarsh
Included: Sale of Dunkirk (first appearance); Siege of Metz (1870) (first appearance); Early history of the IRT subway/New York City Subway (History: 3rd appearance, last in 2010 (was previously ineligible); Subway: 6th appearance, last in 2016); Banská Bystrica (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 75th anniversary); Armenian parliament shooting (2nd appearance, last in 2016; 20th anniversary); Lope de Aguirre (first appearance); Nancy Storace (first appearance); Pumpsie Green (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:24, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Moved to Ineligible: History of Philadelphia (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Soviet submarine S-363
Omitted: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (ineligible—maintenance); Siege of Metz (1870) (ineligible—maintenance); Early history of the IRT subway; Banská Bystrica; Lope de Aguirre; Nancy Storace; Pumpsie Green
Included: Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands (2nd appearance, last in 2011; previously appeared on October 26); Philip Berrigan (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Michael D. Higgins/2011 Irish presidential election (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2017); Abulfeda (first appearance); Rex Shelley (first appearance; 90th birthday); Zoya Phan (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 40th birthday)
Repeats: Sale of Dunkirk (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Armenian parliament shooting/Vazgen Sargsyan (Shooting: 2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; Sargsyan: first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 21:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

New articles (ineligible): Musha Incident (maintenance); Vavasor Powell (maintenance)
Omitted: Sale of Dunkirk; Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands; Philip Berrigan; Armenian parliament shooting/Vazgen Sargsyan; Rex Shelley; Zoya Phan
Included: Siege of Metz (1870) (2nd appearance, last in 2019); 1946 Bihar riots (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 75th anniversary); Soviet submarine S-363 (4th appearance, last in 2015; 40th anniversary); 2004 World Series (3rd appearance, last in 2018); William Gillies (Australian politician) (first appearance); Jan Duursema (first appearance)
Repeats: Michael D. Higgins/2011 Irish presidential election (both: 2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 10th anniversary); Abulfeda (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:55, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]