Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 October 3

This template cannot be seen in articles by over two-thirds of readers because this template (like all those using {{navbox}}) does not show up on the mobile version of the site. There are concerns that simply replacing it with a responsive design bloats page size for mobile devices. I therefore suggest deleting the template and replacing it with a link to List of counties in Texas. -- Beland (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep No violation of policy on templates/navboxes. So what if it can't be seen by mobile users? Most navboxes can't. And links articles on a subject where a navbox is benefited from having. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would argue that pretty much all navboxes need to be replaced with something that works on both mobile and desktop. I'm just starting with this one and a few others where I can make a concrete proposal for how to do that.

I don't think this navbox benefits desktop readers compared to the alternative. Because it's displayed by default as collapsed, it requires a click to active the list of counties. The link that would replace it requires the same number of clicks to see the list of counties. There's a page load instead of a JS activation, but instead of just an alphabetical list with no context, the curious reader gets a map and a table with interesting facts, which they can sort on characteristics of interest. That's much more likely to promote understanding and usefully assist readers who are looking for a specific county.

If there's no policy that Wikipedia should be user-friendly for the supermajority of its readers who use the mobile site, maybe it's time to make one and catch up with the shifting demographic. -- Beland (talk) 02:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 3

Template:Texas counties