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Please cut and paste nominations to be archived from the Picture peer review mainpage to the top of the appropriate archive page, creating a new archive (by nomination date) when necessary.

Original - Rameswaram TV Tower is the Tallest structure in India. It stands 323 m from its base to top.

Very Important image in the field of infrastructure in India.

Articles this image appears in
Rameswaram TV Tower, List of tallest structures in India
Creator
flickrPrince
Suggested by
Tatiraju.rishabh (talk) 11:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - A drop of water on a leaf. The leaf is hydrophobic so the droplet forms into a spherical shape to reduce contact with the surface. The hydrophobic effect occurs when water excludes non-polar molecules.

I uploaded this picture I found on flickr to Commons about 3 1/2 years ago. I think it demonstrates the hydrophobic effect beautifully and am interested to see what everyone thinks of it as I am not a photography expert. I wrote the description myself but its a paraphrasing/re-iteration of material in the hydrophobic article as I'm not a science expert either.

Articles this image appears in
hydrophobic effect, drop
Creator
tanakawho
Suggested by
Quadzilla99 (talk) 12:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - Sunbaker, a famous Australian image taken by Max Dupain

This seems to meet all the requirements of an FP except the side > 1000 pixels issue. I'm a bit confused whether this is suitable to be a FP as it's not by a wikipedian and is the subject of an article rather than illustrating an article, so thought I'd ask here. Bigger digger (talk) 20:44, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Sunbaker, Max Dupain & Culture of Australia
Creator
Max Dupain
Suggested by
Bigger digger (talk) 20:44, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • I don't think this would make it. An image being the subject of an article is fine, it usually suggests that it was chosen by an editor as the best image on the article, but this doesn't have a dimension above 1000px and according to the picture info the actual thing's over a square foot. --I'ḏOne 22:36, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • So the only potential problem is that it's possibly too small, not that it's a work of art? Bigger digger (talk) 02:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm telling you, I'm being nice compared to how harshly it would probably be criticized on FPC, and, let's be honest: It's a museum piece. Someone could go to the National Gallery of Australia and just take a larger high-quality photo of it. If FPC was going to pass an image this size there would need to be something very exceptional about it, and even then there's no guarantee because they might not think it has enough encyclopedic value. BTW there's actually a lot of disagreement with the current 1000px dimension requirement, a bunch of users want even bigger images. There's nothing stopping you from nominating this at FPC if you want to try, but I see almost no chance for it succeeding there personally. Could probably pass at Valued image since it seem to probably be the best image on the article's subject. --I'ḏOne 03:36, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Hey, no worries, I'm not bothered either way, the query came up at DYK as its article is being nominated — thought I'd use it as an opportunity to find out about the mysteries of FP. Thanks very much for your feedback. Bigger digger (talk) 12:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, too small given the dimensions of the photograph. If a better scan could be obtained, this would stand a good chance of passing. Makeemlighter (talk) 07:03, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - In ray traced images, bump maps are used to simulate bumps, wrinkles and dents on a surface by changing the way that surface appears to be illuminated. The technique is limited in that it does not actually modify the shape of the underlying object. The sphere to the left has had a bump map applied to simulate a crumbling surface, but neither the sphere's outline nor its shadow are affected. The sphere to the right uses a similar bump map as an isosurface function to actually modify the size and shape of the underlying sphere. Both the outline and the shadow are affected.
Version 2 - In ray traced images, bump maps are used to simulate bumps, wrinkles and dents on a surface by changing the way that surface appears to be illuminated. The technique is limited in that it does not actually modify the shape of the underlying object. The sphere to the left has had a bump map applied to simulate a crumbling surface, but neither the sphere's outline nor its shadow are affected. The sphere to the right uses a similar bump map as an isosurface function to actually modify the size and shape of the underlying sphere. Both the outline and the shadow are affected.

Long version starts here: I've done some minor tidying to the article on bump mapping recently, including sourcing the key problem or limitation with the technique that shapes given a bump map only LOOK like they've got a bumpy surface because of the way they reflect light. The shape itself isn't actually changed. This is important because it can cause problems with obtaining realism in bump mapped images but I was unable to find an image which actually showed this important limitation clearly; so I created this one. I know it's early days for VP, but I think the encyclopaedic value should be clear and I might as well get feedback on it now. I hope there's also a chance for FP.

Some technical background about the image: it has been raytraced using POV-Ray at a high quality using effects such as radiosity (to improve the realism of the ambient lighting) and fog (to soften the background and create the mottled light pattern on the ground). This makes the "fake" CG appearance of the left hand, bump mapped sphere all the more obvious sitting next to the right hand, isosurface sphere.

Short version starts here: High quality ray traced image showing an important, and therefore encyclopaedically valuable, limitation in bump mapping by comparing a bump mapped sphere (left) with a sphere that actually has a bumpy surface (right).

Articles this image appears in
Bump mapping
Creator
GDallimore (Talk)
Suggested by
GDallimore (Talk) 21:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Version 2 added with improved bump map to show that the technique can give very good effects. Also, I have increased the similarity between the surface texture of the two spheres for easier comparison. Also, slightly increased lighting from the front but higher contrast. Any comments on either version before I submit to FP? GDallimore (Talk) 12:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Interesting and the digital imagery is very good. I can barely wrap my head around what this is (a technique of digital reproduction of a surface?) but yes, I think it could maybe pass. However, I gotta say Ray tracing (graphics) has a lot of very good images. --I'ḏOne 21:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks, and I agree there's already some great stuff out there. The thing about this image is that it isn't intended to be ultra-high quality - it's intended to be highly encyclopedic with at least some artistic quality. I've been working on some artistic improvements, though, and am ready to do a new version if I get any suggestions for improvements. GDallimore (Talk) 15:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Original - Hand-painted centerline on state highway M-15 in Marquette County, Michigan, United States

It's rare to have a highway photo from 1917, let alone an image of the first highway centerline in the country. After some discussions with the Michigan Department of Transportation, I've obtained this 10.08 MP copy from the original photo in the MDOT archives to replace previous, lower resolution copies. Some minor enhancement is in order, but otherwise the scan is in remarkable shape for a photo taken by a non-professional photographer in that era. Suggestions for improvement are appreciated.

Articles this image appears in
M-15 (Michigan highway) (the highway designation in 1917), County Road 492 (Marquette County, Michigan) (the road designation today), Road surface marking, Michigan Highway System, Timeline of United States inventions (1890–1991)
Creator
Unknown photographer for the Michigan State Highway Department
Suggested by
Imzadi 1979  00:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Definitely a better picture than the smaller version that was nominated in August, but still not up to FP quality for historic photographs in my opinion. I appreciate that this is rare photo, and a better version will not likely surface, but it's just not there. Thank you very much however for tracking down the high resolution version. (I encourage others to comment if they disagree with my assessment) Jujutacular talk 21:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can I get some specific, objective reasons why you feel that way? Is there anything possible to improve the image in question? My opinion is that the EV should outweigh the fact that Ansel Adams or a similar professional/artist was not the photographer, as this photo documents a moment in history. We have tons of highway photos that show centerlines and other lane markings, but none of them show the first highway with a centerline. I can rephotograph Dead Man's Curve anytime I'm back to visit my hometown, but no current photo will have the vintage wooden guardails, the period cars or the original style of centerline. (It has the plain, boring modern paint scheme now. Imzadi 1979  23:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • The photo looks vivid as a thumbnail, but upon looking at it at a full resolution, the image is a little blurry. When this photo was taken to FPC, a PNG version was created that showed the road more vividly. I would support the use of the PNG version. However, if that is not possible, the current version of the photo is fine to use, but may not necessarily meet FP criteria. Dough4872 22:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not picking up any blurriness on my screen. Is there any specific area you were detecting blurriness? As for vividness, that was was probably from tweaking the contrast and brightness, something I haven't done here. This is a straight scan from the negative by the photo lab at MDOT. Imzadi 1979  23:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • By bluriness, I mean the quality is not 100 percent. I've seen some black-and-white FPs that have better quality. Dough4872 00:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • For what it's worth, I find this photo much more interesting than many POTD like minerals. The photo is not perfect, but is really quite good, and being the first centerline is quite interesting. There are other interesting aspects to the photo as well, for example the many glass insulators on the poles are quite different in arrangement from today's poles. Showing contemporary vehicles is a further plus. A hearty thumb's up.--Statr (talk) 17:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Original - A warrior about to perform seppuku.

In case you never heard of Seppuku, it means to disembowel yourself to maintain honor instead of dying from your enemie. Its really crazy. Anyway, I would like to know if this would likely to pass a FPC before actually doing so. GamerPro64 (talk) 03:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Disembowelment, Seppuku
Creator
Waiapo
Suggested by
GamerPro64 (talk) 03:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • It is pretty good, but I can't see a reason why a higher resolution scan couldn't be made. Unfortunately the uploader hasn't been around since 2008 or so. How hard would it be to track down a copy do you think? Noodle snacks (talk) 11:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Its actually harding than you would think. link Would it pass if I don't have a higher resolution version? GamerPro64 (talk) 20:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It might do (I'd just try it). There is this, which is bigger, but I don't know about copyright status etc. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's already one like that. I was planning on adding it to FPC after this picture's nomination. GamerPro64 (talk) 02:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - A render of a 3D model of a glass molecular model of cyclohexane, methane, ethane, and heptane. This picture demonstrates such effects as refraction and reflection using ray-tracing; caustics using photon mapping, and depth-of-field. The ray-tracing depth was set to 9, and caustics are enabled. The index of refraction of the glass material is set to 1.55. The virtual lens has a focal length of 120 mm, is stopped down to f11, and is positioned 23.6 cm from the subject.
Alt 1 With different depth-of-field settings, and more room on either side.
Alt 2 With depth-of-field disabled. Image is also found on Ray-tracing (graphics).

Looks pretty, and has some EV too.

Articles this image appears in
Depth-of-field,V-Ray
Creator
Purpy Pupple
Suggested by
Purpy Pupple (talk) 03:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - Dale Earnhardt, Jr. making a pit stop at Darlington Raceway in 2009.

clear, shows detail

Articles this image appears in
Pit stop
Creator
[1]
Suggested by
Nascar1996 17:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - "The Dogs of War" - a Punch cartoon from June 17, 1876 showing Russia holding back the Balkan countries from attacking Turkey.

The picture has excellent quality, good EV, and is a featured picture on Turkish Wikipedia.

Articles this image appears in
The dogs of war (phrase), Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878), 1876, Ottoman Empire
Creator
Adam Cuerden
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 00:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder
Conclusion


Original - A 23-year-old man who nearly starved to death after spending one month in a Viet Cong internment camp, 1966.

Since I never added an picture to FPC, I would like to know if there is any problems about it before shipping it off. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Viet Cong, Starvation
Creator
Tom
Suggested by
GamerPro64 (talk) 00:35, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder
Conclusion


Original - Surface projections of the major organs of the trunk, using the vertebral column and rib cage as main reference points of superficial anatomy.

It is a very useful composite of multiple references describing anatomical locations. After numerous adjustments, it should be very accurate, but feedback is still appreciated to get closer to perfection.

Articles this image appears in
Kidney, Gallbladder, Vertebral column, McBurney's point, Trunk (anatomy), Celiac artery, Human rib cage, Transpyloric plane, Oblique fissure, Horizontal fissure of right lung, Liver
Creator
Mikael Häggström, using images in the Public Domain
Suggested by
Mikael Häggström (talk) 17:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seconder
Thanks! I'm thinking of giving it an entry in WP:FPC once it's been a while on WikiProject Anatomy and on general display in the articles to ensure that the anatomical accuracy is all right. Mikael Häggström (talk) 14:26, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Conclusion


Original - A red pitaya (Hylocereus undatus) fruit, also known as dragonfruit, together with a cross section.

The vast majority of the pictures of a pitaya on Wikipedia are not of a high quality, so I thought I would contribute one that is. I'm hoping to get some feedback to see if it's suitable or has any chance as a candidate for Featured Picture.

Articles this image appears in
Pitaya, Hylocereus and Hylocereus undatus
Creator
S Masters
Suggested by
S Masters (talk) 03:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
How can I make it better? Any suggestions? - S Masters (talk) 11:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seconder
  • Very nice, I think it could pass, and the edges are pretty smooth. The background shadow's a bit unrealistic, but other than that I personally don't see anything wrong with it. --I'ḏOne 21:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. I have softened the shadows so that it does not look so harsh. Any more comments before I try this at FP? – S Masters (talk) 08:36, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your comments. I have decided to be bold and nominated it. Do I remove this from here now? - S Masters (talk) 07:45, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you. - S Masters (talk) 00:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Conclusion


Original - The I-74 Bridge, connecting Bettendorf, Iowa, and Moline, Illinois over the Mississippi River, is located near the geographic center of the Quad Cities

Good picture, high EV as it is by far the busiest bridge in the Quad Cities and a very major transportation artery

Articles this image appears in
Quad Cities, Interstate 74, Bettendorf, Iowa, I-74 Bridge
Creator
Ctjf83
Suggested by
CTJF83 chat 01:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - Bashkir switchman near the town Ust' Katav on the Yuryuzan River between Ufa and Cheliabinsk in the Ural Mountains region, ca. 1910. Shot by Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky.

Impressive picture of good quality, especially for that time. Good EV for the Bashkir people and for the railway.

Articles this image appears in
Bashkirs, Trans-Siberian Railway, Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky
Creator
Eloquence
Suggested by
♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • My guess is that it would get a similar reaction to the previous Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky photographs. There are already quite a few for that author, so it would rest on the EV in the first two articles. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Noodle snacks here with one caveat. If this, or any other Prokudin-Gorsky photo, is particularly famous, notable, or representative of his work, it would stand a chance at FPC without having high EV in other articles. Makeemlighter (talk) 16:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Macro image of a walnut seed

High definition, a lot of detail, high encyclopedic value.

Articles this image appears in
http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almindelig_Valn%C3%B8d Macro photography, Juglans regia


Creator
TobiasKierk
Suggested by
TobiasKierk (talk) 21:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - The downtown Los Angeles skyline during sunset as seen from Griffith Observatory.

Despite its small size, I think it'll be able to pass VPC for high EV and great quality.

Articles this image appears in
Southern California, Downtown Los Angeles, List of tallest buildings in Los Angeles, List of tallest buildings in California
Creator
Mfield
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 17:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
I would just point out that it can pass FPC becuase it's above 1000pixels (1024X167) and VPC has a newly made resolution criteria of 800 pixels. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:01, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, according to the criteria, "Panoramas need to be substantially larger than 1000 pixels in the longer dimension in order for sufficient details to be seen." There's no guideline for "substantially larger", but I'd say this doesn't come close to being big enough. Makeemlighter (talk) 16:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Air Drop Of Supplies In Operation Junction City

Relatively good image composition and shows information about the war. i.e. Air supply drop, weapon used. It has decent resolution despite its relative historical value. Likely to be a valued image as well if not featured.

Articles this image appears in
M14 rifle Weapons of the Vietnam War Operation Junction City 1967 in the Vietnam War
Creator
Movieevery United States Army
Suggested by
TheROfan (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • This is probably worth adding to Airdrop. It would have more EV there than in any of its present articles. I don't think it's useful enough in any current articles to meet the EV requirement at FPC. It's also not in great shape, so some restoration would help, although it's probably too small anyway. Makeemlighter (talk) 16:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seconder


Original - San Francisco Bay panorama from Crissy Field East Beach during mid-September 2007

The picture is of good quality and good EV.

Articles this image appears in
San Francisco Bay
Creator
Ehiris
Suggested by
Secret Saturdays (talk to me)what's new? 18:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - In the festival of Deepawali in India, people burn similar firecrackres. In the image, a chakra (spinning top with firecrackers) is shown.

I took this very quickly...a lucky shot.

Articles this image appears in
Diwali
Creator
Rishabh Tatiraju
Suggested by
Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 10:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder


Original - Beautiful emotions in this image.

Beautiful emotions in one picture

Articles this image appears in
Hurricane Ike
Creator
Staff Sgt. James L. Harper Jr. (U.S. Air Force photo)
Suggested by
Rishabh Tatiraju (talk) 17:10, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Emotions, though desirable in movies and such, are usually not useful in encyclopedias, and this picture does not provide any other encyclopedic value. Purpy Pupple (talk) 10:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Beautiful emotions" when somebody is crying... jeeees. Nergaal (talk) 05:00, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • You guys are cold. Emotions are good for illustrating a disaster's effect on residents. After all, if you make a big explosion it will be emotional enough, but if you set somebody running away from it, it will get really stage-ready. ResMar 03:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • A visceral view into the effects of natural disaster. This photo has numerous encyclopedic uses. It demonstrates without any text what has occurred and it changes the way you feel when you look at it. This photo grabs the viewer as they sympathize with it. Humans read encyclopedias. Humans have emotions. The two are not mutually exclusive. Garretttaggs55 (talk) 21:09, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Original - Fireworks on the 4th of July

I saw this image while looking a a friend of mine's userpage, and liked the visual appeal and "WOW" factor of it so I decided to stop by here to see if anyone thought that this could be a good FP/VP. Best, Mifter (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles this image appears in
Fireworks
Creator
UpstateNYer
Suggested by
Mifter (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Beautiful, but it's cutoff on the top, the tree obstructs a little, but I personally don't think it's much (not that someone else might not disagree). I have a feeling that something like fireworks might get some controversy because they happen a lot and could be represented in many ways. At any event it would stand a much higher chance if it wasn't cutoff. --I'ḏOne 02:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seconder


Original - 1997–1999 Holden VT Commodore SS sedan

Of the several thousand automobile images that I have uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons, I think this one is by far the best. The background is interesting and attractive, the car is of the preferred ¾ view as specified by WikiProject Automobiles, and the car is free of any major shadows or reflections (a very difficult aspect of automotive photography). I have made some minor changes to the image, but require assistance in cleaning up the paintwork of the lower door panels, wheel arches, and the side skirt. I have intentionally left the colour balance, brightness/contrast, et cetera unaltered as I never seem to get the balance quite right.

Articles this image appears in
Holden
Creator
OSX
Suggested by
OSX (talkcontributions) 14:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Seconder