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I created the account McJombo Sails (and informed ArbCom), to help with WP:NEWT, on 12NOV09. I originally edited the user page and talk page saying hello, then proceeded to Talk:Main Page and asked if I could do anything to help, I was then welcomed; after that McJombo created his first article: Broadway Rag. Broadway Rag was not tagged for CSD, and survived the duration of this test.

  • The second article I created was Tornado Jockey, I made a particular note not to source anything, and make it sound as "newbieish" as possible. It was tagged for deletion, 1 hour and 43 minutes after creation, by an editor, as CSD A7. A7 of course doesn't apply to software articles, and as Tornado Jockey is a desktop based game, it is software. An admin declined the speedy and put a notice on the tagger's talk page concerning this.
  • The third article I created was Polar Golfer, again taking note to not source the article. It was tagged for CSD A7 by an editor, 58 minutes after creation, at the same time he tagged Tornado Jockey, and Super Granny. Again CSD didn't apply due to it being software. An admin declined this one as well, leaving a note on the talk page.
  • The fourth article I created was Super Granny, as the previous two it was made in a poor fashion. It was tagged 2 minutes later as CSD A1, I put a {{hangon}} tag on the article, and left a note on the talk page saying that I thought it was notable. The article did have enough context to identify the subject and therefore did not meet the criteria for CSD. 1 hour and 17 minutes later the article was deleted per CSD A7. Again the article was about a game (which is software) and therefore did not meet the criteria for speedy deletion. I left a note on the deleting admin's talk page, begging him to help me, he didn't reply. I re-created the article 9 minutes later, and left a note on the talk page asking for it to not be deleted again. 2 minutes later an editor tagged it for CSD A7, he then proceeded to tag Tornado Jockey and Polar Golfer under the same criteria. I placed a {{hangon}} tag on the article. Another admin declined the speedy.
  • The final article I created was Blackhawk Striker 2, again with the same editing style. It was tagged for PROD, and as I couldn't find any substantial refs, I went ahead and deleted it.

  • This shows a need for more scrutiny when tagging articles, too many editors and admins seem to think that the faster an article is gone the better. Taking a few extra seconds to look over what you're tagging/deleting isn't that hard.