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CentralAuth Inquiry

Hey there! I'm inquiring about CentralAuth. Recently, I searched up my account on it, and it had the 'new account' tag next to my name. Is there a specific timeframe (e.g. one year), and after that it expires, or is it just going to be there forever? Henry (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Henry Herrmann-Friedrich I think your account on en Wikipedia is marked "new account" because it was set up as a new account, while your accounts on other Wikimedia projects are marked "created on login" because they were set up automatically through Wikipedia:Unified login, so your account on en Wikipedia will always be marked "new account". Hopefully that is written down somewhere. TSventon (talk) 03:31, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

That's right. CentralAuth is the unified login system for Wikimedia wikis. It's from 2008. Special:CentralAuth/Henry Herrmann-Friedrich has a green plus icon at en.wikipedia.org saying "new account" on hover. MediaWiki:Centralauth-merge-method-new-desc says "Indicates that the global account was created automatically when that local account was created." The text "new account" is probably permanent but an administrator like me could change it at MediaWiki:Centralauth-merge-method-new. My alternative account Special:CentralAuth/PrimeHunter2 has said "New account" at en.wikipedia.org since it was created in 2008. My main account Special:CentralAuth/PrimeHunter has a nice house icon instead at en.wikipedia.org and says "home wiki". The account was originally created in 2005 so it predates CentralAuth. Each Wikimedia wiki had separate accounts at the time. In 2009 my enwiki account was merged into the CentralAuth system and designated "home wiki" (MediaWiki:Centralauth-merge-method-primary). There are other possible values from the CentralAuth merge process at [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:55, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate the insight! Henry (talk) 04:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

IP user comment

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dronebogus/Basement&oldid=1217044646 -- Ooligan (talk) 04:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Why are you drawing our attention to random months-old posts on a random user page, Ooligan? --ColinFine (talk) 09:18, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

It looked like possible vandalism. The linked post is old, however the IP address has recently edited 14 days ago and I don't see a block. I read the request a block page, but I wasn't sure if this qualified for a block request, so I brought it here. I have never requested a block on wikipedia. My other option would have been to not mention it at all. -- Ooligan (talk) 14:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ooligan: You didn't "bring it here" in your original post. You simply pasted a link to an historical version of a user's talk page and expected readers like ColinFine and me to work out what it is and why you are drawing attention to it, all under a cryptic heading. If you'd added your most recent commentary (and used a more meaningful heading), then everyone would be wiser from the start. Bazza 7 (talk) 16:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@Bazza 7 and @ColinFine- The link I provided to the talk page had only two (2) entries and only one of the two entries was an IP with the negative comment. I thought it was enough information at that time. I will give more information in the future in a similar circumstance. Respectfully, -- Ooligan (talk) 16:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I've removed the offending comment. Usually IPs aren't blocked for long as IPs can be shared or recycled to new costumers, and in fact a costumer's IP often changes (not for all internet providers, but it's common), so unless the IP is a proxy, or there's persistent or egregious disruption (*or the IP or person using the IP has been blocked before) the IP will usually only be blocked for 31 hours, or 60, or a week; lengths like that.

Basically there's not much point in doing more now. – 2804:F1...F5:930E (talk) 22:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC) *edited: 23:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the explaination and your prompt action. Best regards, -- Ooligan (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Changing label output name of a parameter in Speciesbox

In the Speciesbox of the Sinhala wikipedia, Its needed to change the parameter "clade's" output name to "ක්ලේඩය"; the native word for it. I cant seem to find the place to edit it. (i have changed other label names for genus and species but can't find the place to edit clade) VihirLak007 (talk) 08:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

I can't find it, VihirLak007 - my guess is that it's buried somewhere way down in a module. (It's not in Module:Taxobox). Often if you can't find the source of something in a template, it's in Wikidata somewhere, but that seems unlikely in this case. I suggest asking at Template talk:Speciesbox. ColinFine (talk) 09:31, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@VihirLak007: The linked page Speciesbox currently displays several "ක්ලේඩය" and no "clade". Is the issue resolved? If not then please link a page which displays an unwanted "clade". PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

issues was resolved by an admin. VihirLak007 (talk) 11:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Information Relevant to Article?

I was working on Bedok MRT station and I came across this source that stated that a Mcdonald's outlet near the station increased its crew team in anticipation of the station's opening. I'm not sure if it's particularly relevant to the history of the station (although it is part of an article that details businesses anticipating more profit from the branch's opening day) but I do find it interesting. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 13:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Imbluey2: This bit of information seems like something (at least to me) that would fall under WP:NOTEVERYTHING as not being all that encyclopedically relevant to the readers of Bedok MRT station. Perhaps there were other stores near the station that increased staff or made other changes in anticipation of the new customers they expected to receive when the station opened. A general statement on how the opening of the station impacted the surrounding area economically might be relevant information to include in the article if reliable WP:SECONDARY sources can be found in support, but simply mentioning a single McDonalds seems a bit WP:UNDUE (again in my opinion). -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@Marchjuly After digging further into the article, I did find out there was another business who anticipated for a lot of customers. However, I don't think there are other sources reporting this matter, so it's therefore irrelevant Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 12:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

donations

I would eagerly support Wikipedia financially IF they would cease their obvious Left-wing bias. History and Politics are ugly for all sides, and protecting one side only ruins the reputation PERMANENTLY. It would be nothing if everyone donated even $2 per month, yet, with the clear bias, Wikipedia is no longer a reliable reference source. 142.165.164.181 (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

First off, Wikipedia goes out of its way to state it is not a reliable source. It merely reports what reliable sources say. Second, Conservapedia is thataway →. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:30, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

On a different note: Wikipedia editors and Wikipedia admins do not receive any part of the donations, the donations go to the Wikimedia Foundation. Personally I think that's a good thing, means it's harder for people to pay for their narratives because editors are all individuals and doing this as volunteers. It does mean that there needs to be WP:CONSENSUS for things that a lot of people care about, between the people who care, on what articles actually contain though - and the interested people vary by article and topic. – 2804:F1...F5:930E (talk) 23:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

If you want to change what you see as the ideological bent here, you need to be here, participating. 331dot (talk) 23:54, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Need to change Page Title to a Proper Noun

We need to change "Jamaica association for the deaf" to Jamaica Association for the Deaf" because it is a proper noun and the name of an organization. I have not been able to find how to do this. Thank you in advance for your assistance. More02109 (talk) 23:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

The current title of the page is "Jamaica association of the deaf" which is incorrect. More02109 (talk) 23:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

(ec) I moved "Jamaica association of the deaf" to "Jamaica Association of the Deaf", then to "Jamaica Association for the Deaf". See WP:PAGEMOVE (maybe you don't have enough edits to do that?). Clarityfiend (talk) 23:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

picture copyright

Hello! I uploaded a picture on wikipedia (the 2024 Cook Out Southern 500 top picture) and I was wondering if the copyright status of the picture will be deleted if the track removes the picture on their website. will I still get in trouble? 45BearsFan (talk) 23:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, 45BearsFan. I see no problems with the licensing of the logo and do not think that future removal of the logo will have any effect. It looks to me like you are acting in good faith and I see no reason that you would get in trouble. The logo is copyrighted and will remain so even if removed from other websites. Its non-free use on Wikipedia must comply with WP:NFCI #2 and it looks to me like it does. Cullen328 (talk) 02:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)