User talk:The misfit kid

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Hello, The misfit kid, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as ABiCA, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of ABiCA

A tag has been placed on ABiCA, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the reasons. If the page has since been deleted, you can ask me the reasons by leaving a message on my user talk page.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Calabe 1992 02:28, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About your deleted page

Your page, "ABiCA", was deleted because it met the criteria for deleting pages that infringe on others' copyrights. It's important that we don't copy and paste from other sources here, or type word-for-word copies of printed articles, for example, to ensure that articles don't violate existing copyrights. Instead of doing that, we write the content ourselves, and cite sources so that people can verify that the information is accurate. Hopefully, that explains it better for you. :D dalahäst ^(talk) 01:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Misfit kid, I see you stated on the talk p. of the article "ABiCA" "why was this deleted i was authorized to use the copied text i know ABiCA. I see the response you were given doesn't fully explain the situation, so let me explain a little further:

When you want to use copying material, the owner of the copyright must explicitly license the rights to the material according to our licensing, using the CC-BY-SA and the GNU licenses, as explained in WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:Donating copyrighted materials; these licenses give everyone in the world an irrevocable license to reuse and alter the material, even for commercial purposes. It has to be done exactly that way--we can't accept informal statements because we have no way of verifying them.

But I do not suggest you do this . Regardless of permission, the tone of this material is not suitable. A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the group, say what they do. Don't urge people to listen do their music, say what they have done and what awards they have won for it in plain descriptive terms without using adjectives of praise,

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the group and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to fans or prospective fans--that sort of content is considered promotional. Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of press releases or web sites, which are usually more expansive.

The article could equally well have been deleted for this reason (G11, entirely promotional, regardless of copyright. Had I seen it before it was deleted, I would have deleted it giving both reasons.

It also was deleted for not showing importance. A statement that their music is best found on the web, and that their first music video is still being recorded certainly does not indicate importance at all, though I see some hints in the full text of the now deleted article that their may have been reviews. (the sources for them would need to be given, and must be references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. Lunch.com does not count, for anyone at all can post a review--there is no editorial control, so we do not regard it as reliable.

If--and only if--you have suitable references to show notability according to the full criteria as WP:MUSIC, and can write a descriptive non-promotional original article you may do so. However, be aware that a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know.

My advice however as an admin of long experience here, is to wait until the music video is actually released, and attracts by its merits substantial published attention from reliable sources. It will make a much stronger and more convincing article. I wish them success, after which they will be an appropriate subject for an article. DGG ( talk ) 02:35, 21 December 2011 (UTC) For further information see WP:FIRST.[reply]