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Where'd the message thread go?

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Ok back to your query at my talk - I would say that the effectiveness of the separating the watch list into sections is not effective over 15k on the list - my watchlist being much larger it has no positive aspect at all - but it does do the task - and doesnt take long... JarrahTree 10:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense. Thanks.
Vaguely related, I increased my watchlist to 15K yesterday, by adding all the scripts in user space that weren't named "common.js, or that didn't have a skin name, or "twinkle", in them. (That's about 8K). I learned that there's only a couple people active writing scripts. What an anti-climax. Unless users are writing scripts directly in their common.js or vector.js pages. Or offline. How common is that? The Transhumanist 10:16, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Transhumanist: Watchlist size - I have been close to 50k for ages, and it really is ineffective, as only a small %age ever gets attention - I think about 20k is best size - but it will take ages to manually manipulate the larger one -it doesnt want changes of any substance during the reduction editing... and refuses to operate on big edits...catch 22 and all JarrahTree 10:23, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You mean, once you hit a certain size, you're stuck? That's a hell of a bug. What about editing the raw watchlist? It accepts additions of thousands of links at a time (I just added 8,000). To remove stuff, can't you just cut and paste the whole thing into an editor and then cut and paste it back in when you are done? The Transhumanist 06:56, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Transhumanist: not the times that I have tried - once every 3 or 4 years or so I try, but... nah there is not much to do with 10ks of ip numbers or categories... slow to edit out, fast to gain :( JarrahTree 08:22, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It's rather obtuse of me, but while I know there are technical things one should do, I can't lift myself to do them, trusting in the whitefellah trackers keeping an eye on the spoors of errancy as I trek across the indigenous landscape. By the way, everytime I start a page with the pat line '..are/were an indigenous Australian people of..' or write 'according to Norman Tindale' (attribution that is obligatory since much of the mapping and the territorial conceit behind it is questioned), I have an image of myself as Jack Nicholson in The Shining, bashing away on the typewriter infinite repetitions of 'All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy'. :) Nishidani (talk) 11:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 5 February 2018

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Wikidata weekly summary #298

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your efforts in reviewing new pages!
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Juru people

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In the article Juru people that you reverted you left some copy-writing issues, there's a title "Alternative names=" that is not well formed. also are you happy with "In Norman Tindale estimate"?? Damiantgordon (talk) 15:17, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO best trying the man himself - try User:Nishidani - he might even correct the combination of my revert and your edit JarrahTree 15:24, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I might as well just tidy up the non-controversial elements myself. Damiantgordon (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In this article, one of the headings is "Native title", does that break the usage of the "native" ban also? Damiantgordon (talk) 15:29, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's what it's called downunder. Thanks for the copyediting.Nishidani (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, thanks Nishidani, but the owner of this page JarrahTree said "Please note that we do not use native in the Australian project", that's the only reason I ask. Damiantgordon (talk) 20:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Jarrah is, no brownschnozzing intended, a very experienced hand in this, and his point reflects the known distinction between the substantive native (a put-down) and the adjective native, which, in English, is perfectly neutral, indeed has a positive resonance, e.g. we speak of the insights derived from an etic perspective as 'native knowledge' without connoting that we are dealing with savages' fantasies. Or one can remark on someone having a 'native command of English' (et al.,) without implying he is a pernickety jungle or desert sandnigger upstart. Much of the grog I quaff comes from vines 'native to Italy', one of the most civilized, if not the most civilized, countries on earth. But if you say 'the natives are getting restless', the colonial sahib hauteur murmuring behind the phrase is self-evidentNishidani (talk) 20:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, this is absolutely fascinating, here in Ireland because we have some post-colonial border issues still going on 100 years later, we sometimes use the term "native land" as a 'fudge' where it's a polite way of talking about the country without specifying whether we mean the whole island of Ireland, or just the Republic of Ireland (the "south") so as not to offend anyone, so it's considered vague enough that everyone will interpret it in a way that is least offensive to themselves. And I absolutely agree with you on the 'the natives are getting restless' point, if that is meant in a condescending fashion, it's is grounds for a punch-up (verbally, at least). Damiantgordon (talk) 23:45, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I happened to be thinking of stories told in the family of the famine years in the 1840s, and of course of the old contrast between the Anglo-Irish protestant ascendancy, and the 'native' Irish Catholics. There's a hint of it in a novel, I see
“Miss Nolan,” Mrs. Redmond said. The teacher was in front of a large blackboard, sitting behind her desk on a raised platform at the head of the room. Of course. Colin Brown was in Sue Nolan's class. The outbreak had probably started with him and infected others among her pupils. “Doctor Laverty's here.” “I'm glad he is,” Sue Nolan said. “The natives are getting restless.” She pointed to where six boys, all seven or eight years old, were rising from their desk seats,' Patrick Taylor, An Irish Country Courtship: A Novel, Tom Doherty Associates, 2010 p.256.
Ireland's a very good place to grow up in (peripheries are generally more multi-visioned and therefore more creative than the metropolis) to understand the dynamics of power in the wider world.Nishidani (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 11

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Newsletter • February 2018

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Back!

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Hahaha, I came back when i saw some Barnaby Joyce vandalism, someone else had restored it but I saw some category issues in my watchlist... anyway I couldn't resist. Will try to be here more regularly but easier said that done! -- Chuq (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 20 February 2018

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While I have your attention (from my wtfs), I was (in any case) just about to point you at this new article and its new user, who was having a bad time in Article for Creation. I was pretty sure that building was heritage-listed so, having checked and it was indeed on the WA State Heritage Register) I added that fact (which then makes it notable) and accepted the article into mainspace. But I think both the article and the user could use some help from an experienced WA local like yourself. Kerry (talk) 01:03, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you and the other WP:Australia people help me with Roger East (journalist) ? He deserves a better article. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

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New Page Review Newsletter No.10

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

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On self-inflicted death

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Serious comment:

  • In this edit could you insert a signature at the end of your text in the "Question for the death experts" section and before the "Proposal" section - or better still move the last sentence "Please add..." and signature to before "Proposal". Your existing post will get broken up when someone adds a comment to "Question for the death experts" and/or adds terms to use or not use.

Not-serious comment:

  • Terms not to use: "crawled into his own coffin".

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Your e-mail

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Thanks for the e-mail, which I have read. I see that you've also contributed to the discussion. Mjroots (talk) 08:58, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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I really appreciate the resources you gave me, I will check them out :) A 10 fireplane (talk) 14:26, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Idea for a WikiMedia Australia meeting template

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Perth Meetup
  • Next: ([{{fullurl:String Module Error: Target string is empty|action=watch}} watch])
  • Last: 10 March 2018, Perth

See also: Australian events listed at Wikimedia.org.au (or on Facebook)

What do you reckon of this template: {{Wikimedia Australia event}}. It could be used in the WP:Meetup/(City)/Invite meetup pages (e.g. here) as well as on events like QWiki. Any ideas? T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 13:00, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 26 April 2018

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"Helpful" editors "improving" things ...

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a) FYI Pdfpdf (talk) 11:10, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

b) "Most local meetup editors leave off project tags and date categories and things, its a slow catchup ... " - I have no idea what you mean by "leave off project tags and date categories and things", and even less idea of what you mean by "its a slow catchup". Pdfpdf (talk) 11:10, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah well ...

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As Tony Abbott didn't say: "Excrement happens". Pdfpdf (talk) 14:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

i thought it was university libraries

the suppository of knowledge - which by all reports are either being flooded (ANU and UTAS) or in general stripped of so many funds and facilities they are indeed excrable in their output JarrahTree 14:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are at least 6 responses to that! Where do I start?
  • He was talking to guys in uniform who'd had their colleagues damaged or killed when he shared those pearls of wisdom with the planet. So no, nothing about universities there - just the ramblings of a Rhodes Scholar who should be capable of more useful statements.
  • The event-in-question was at a UniSA building, but not a library. 50% score on that aspect?
  • No, University Libraries in general, and a couple in particular, don't seem to be faring particularly well at the moment.
  • And then, independent of the above, who knows what the mad monk will say next? (Or do?) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:42, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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response

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We generally don't delete stubs just because of inactivity; some are called "permastubs" because there is suspicion that there is a low likelihood that any one of them will be developed beyond stub-ness. However, for many stubs, they fill a few purposes that a blank page cannot fill: (a) they provide a beginning to someone who can and does want to expand them by providing a framework so that like type articles look alike; (b) they populate templates and categories so those seeking further information actually have something to find and expand; (c) they allow unregistered users (who from time to time are precluded from creating articles) to expand the articles; and (d) they try to even out the extensive coverage of every place or person in the English-speaking world but less coverage elsewhere (see Wikipedia:Systemic_bias#Nature_of_Wikipedia's_bias, an essay but some folks' thoughts on the challenge). Hope this rant helps... Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • As I suggested, reasonable minds limited by AGF can differ. These principles aren't all to my liking, but after a few years here, they become "known terrain" to navigate through. Early on, Wikipedia suffered from a dearth of content and there were many projects that sought to expand the number of articles at all costs as a team-building and perhaps clout-building exercise, or possibly to show some raison d'etre. So we have literally millions of stubs of long-standing - even those which have been edited since create are most often edited by bots, just correcting spelling or changing categories as they shift or are renamed. I tend to think of the permastubs less as a bug than a feature. Nearly every small village or town in the first world has many online or readily accessible sources to be expanded and some nearby editors who care enough to dabble in editing the article. Less so for smaller places in the outer islands of Indonesia, say. I hope that may change in the future, but I am an optimist by nature. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re: from altitudes

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Yep, it's well-sealed (I hope!) in this house. What a storm it is! I don't mind the use of the state if it's Westen or South Australia, because they're self-explanatory ... I'm just followihn the model on other such pages. Graham87 12:52, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 24 May 2018

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The Signpost: 24 May 2018

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NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

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Portals WikiProject update, 25 May 2018

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We have grown to 79 members.

Please provide a warm welcome to our latest additions, Wpgbrown, Cactus.man, JLJ001, and Wumbolo.

A lot is going on, much of it on the WikiProject's talk page, so be sure to go there and join in on any of the many discussions taking place there.

Elsewhere around the portal project, or related to portals, the following is happening...

New news template ready for testing

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Evad37 has created a new template, with supporting lua module, to handle news in portals...

{{Transclude selected current events}} is ready to be tested in some actual portals. Let Evad37 know if you need help with the search patterns.

Noyster commented that "This is the best portal innovation since sliced bread!"

See the relevant discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals#Alternative to Wikinews.

Thank you, Evad.

Coming soon: Automatic article alerts (but there is a glitch)

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Our WikiProject is now subscribed to the bot that makes automatic article alerts, but the subpage where they are posted has not been added to our WikiProject page yet because of a weird problem...

Featured portal nominations from two years ago keep popping up on there.

Please check Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Article alerts to see if you can figure out how to fix this.

Once that is remedied, it will be posted on our WikiProject page.

Thank you.

Note that, this will only track base pages, because to track the rest, we'd have to create over 140,000 talk pages for the subpages, and that just isn't worthwhile (as we're trying to remove the subpages anyways). Therefore, any alerts for subpages will still need to be posted manually.

New portal, still needs work

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Drafting a new portals guideline

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Your input/editing is welcome on the draft-in-progress of a new guideline for portals.

See or work on the draft at User:Cesdeva/sandbox11.

See also the discussion at: Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines#RfC on new portal guidelines

RfC on new TOC layout for main portal list

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There is a proposal to change the look of the table of contents at Portal:Contents/Portals.

See: Portal talk:Contents/Portals#RFC on layout update.

Deletion discussion survivors

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Thank you to those who have participated in portal deletion discussions. There are still some editors out there who despise portals, and this comes across in their argumentation style. Wow. Such negativity. But, there is some good news...

Current deletion discussions are posted on our WikiProject page.

Portal space clean up

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While portal detractors are trying to get rid of portals via MfD, we have deleted many of them via speedy deletion (per {{Db-p1}} or {{Db-p2}}). Essentially, they were bare skeletons, with maybe a little meat on them. The plus here is that speedy deletion is without prejudice to re-creating the portals. They can easily be restarted from scratch without getting approval, or be undeleted by request by someone willing to work on them. We have kept track of these, for when someone wants to rebuild them. They are listed at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

We are also removing subpages, the functions of which have been migrated to portal base pages. To see which ones have been removed, look for the redlinks in our watchlist.

There is also an MfD concerning some of these at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Redundant subpages of the Cornwall portal.

For subpages that need to be deleted, you can conveniently place this speedy deletion template at the top of each of them:

{{Db-g6|rationale=of subpage clean up – this subpage's function has been migrated to the portal base page and is no longer needed}}

Then an admin will come along and delete them.

Please help list the unlisted portals!

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There are still 100 existing portals not yet presented on the main portal list at Portal:Contents/Portals. There were 400, so we've come a long way. Thank you! But we are not done yet...

Please list a couple of them. Every little bit helps. If each member of this project listed one more, it would almost all be done. Many hands make light work.

The list of missings, and instructions, are to be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope to see you there!

Wrapping up

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These developments make up just the tip of the iceberg. I'll have more to report in the next update, soon.    — The Transhumanist   00:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa, I missed one...

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There's an article about the Portals WikiProject in the new issue of Signpost:

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2018-05-24/WikiProject report

Enjoy.

P.S.: We now have 80 members. Evad37 just joined!    — The Transhumanist   01:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA/FAC Reviewing

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I think your point about subject expertise is a good one and since it's not exactly germane to that review thought I'd respond to my thoughts here. Just how much knowledge I should have before starting a GA review is one I've struggled with. This particular review felt the furthest outside my comfort zone simply because not only had I not heard of it, there was a great likelihood of there being local knowledge around the topic that I would have no way of knowing was missing. I'm glad you popped in. But there is a struggle because this page had been waiting for a reviewer for more than 6 months (221 days). At a certain point it seems like the encyclopedia benefits from having someone give a good faith effort to review rather than it sitting in purgatory forever and so I end up reviewing an article that is outside my expertise zone. FAC has the advantage of many eyes in a way that GA doesn't. I really do wish more WikiProject members would step up when an article is nominated for GA in their area to provide that sort of expertise. You might want to think about doing a review or two yourself. It can be rewarding work. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

that disambug

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please read the mfd, afd and csd rationale. don't jump without reading. Quek157 (talk) 00:38, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

JarrahTree, He's ignored multiple people and I've been thinking that the only way to stop this may be to take it to ANI. If you're already gathering links, I don't want to duplicate the effort. Let me know. Natureium (talk) 00:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think going to ANI will help but I will not give any response. My positive seems more than negative. yes, try to collect diffs if you want. futile attempts though. anyway since the project do not need me and I don't see I can contribute in any places without getting flamed this is my response {{Semi-retired}} Quek157 (talk) 01:12, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

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http://www.museumofperth.com.au/induction/ Amy-lou1992 (talk) 04:08, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #314

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Signpost article talk pages shouldn't be tagged

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(re [1]) Otherwise they end up transcluded to the article, and they hide the big invitation for readers to leave comments. Thanks, Evad37 [talk] 15:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join WikiProject Corruption

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Hi @JarrahTree: I noticed your edit on Category talk:WikiProject Corruption. This is an invitation to join the new WikiProject. Best Regards. -Masssly (talk) 17:19, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jarrah Tree, Not usre how I write to you but will try this approach ...JohnLong5 7here-I didn't actually create my own page - its bene up for many years - I was only trying to correct and update some of the text there. I've been editing other palaeontological entries of late-eg Ligulalepis. I shall continue to do this as my main contribution. Best regards, John ....JohnLong57 (talk) 02:07, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Pituri

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Hi JarrahTree. I've been working on Pituri for a while and would love to add an image of a pituri bag. Does WA Museum collection include a bag I could photograph or a free image I could use? If not, do you have any advice about approaching other Australian collections? Cheers. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 03:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Archibald Erskine Smith?

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I am currently trying to research Archibald Erskine as connection to Erskine Link in East Perth but at the moment I am finding a lot of articles on Trove for an Archibald Erskine Smith.

Is this the same Archibald Erskine? One article I have started reading through states that he was a mining broker and in parts of North America he was known as "Coolgardie Smith" and classed as a Soldier of Fortune.

""COOLGARDIE" SMITH DIES IN U.S.A." Western Mail. Vol. XLV, , no. 2, 291. Western Australia. 9 January 1930. p. 31. Retrieved 5 June 2018 – via National Library of Australia.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

Archibald Erskine came to Perth in 1829 with the 63rd Regiment, was given land in Murray area near Peel and became the local justice of Peace, I would say by 1930 he'd have been well over 100 years old, I think that one isnt him. Gnangarra 08:02, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jobpoint

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Ha. "It's like asking to be blocked..." wasn't too far off the mark eh? Anyway, it's a returning SPAMMER who came back for another go... thanks for the cleanup job. Appreciated. I'm actually surprised somebody else didn't collect his hide before I got back. :D -- Longhair\talk 16:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Central Australia Railway

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JarrahTree, A huge thanks for the initial work you did on the Central Australia Railway page all those years ago.

Skillsy (talk) 14:44, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your email

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I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what the dispute is about. If there's a problem, it'd probably be best to lay it out at WP:ANI or WP:ANEW, as appropriate. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Any chance that you could respond to my query at the foot of this page? Gog the Mild (talk) 13:53, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You have been ignoring this. Good. Please continue to do so. I have been contacting the wrong editor. Apologies. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If I've missed anyone

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649 covers all mainland tribes, as far as I can check. So that's done. If I've missed any group and you notice, drop me a note. The Tasmanians are 48 ethnic units, but the destruction was so profound there's hardly any chance of making any article on individual groups as far as I can see, so that just leaves fixing the Tasmanians, one article. Cheers, and thanks for the help.Nishidani (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mitch

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Of course he is well-intentioned, but these mass-edits on this subject are usually disastrous. I still haven't forgotten the particularly big fiasco of his move into political parties, such removing parties with WA and NSW representation from the national category because they were categorised in Victoria (but not in the states with MPs). Finding an article categorised in a parent and a child category might mean that it can be simply removed - or it might mean that there is a category issue which needs to be discussed, in the latter case which randomly removing the parent often leads to stupid outcomes. In any case, Mitch needs to think about what he has found, then act - and absolutely stop removing the parent in all circumstances.

Very often in these cases the answer is that Mitch has found the sort of category issue that means a discussion needs to be had - so perhaps, if I keep reverting his mass-moves where they lead to stupid outcomes, he will do that first, instead of only after being reverted.

I don't know what should happen here: all suburbs are currently in the city suburbs cat (unless they have their own suburb-specific category), and the random category for the City of Swan is an outlier. It might be that you create another category structure for suburbs-by-LGA, which may or not diffuse the main city suburbs category. It might be that you delete the City of Swan category. It might be that some other option is better. I don't particularly have a preference there. But randomly burying all the suburbs of the City of Swan (I had trouble even finding the category amidst the long lists of suburb-specific categories - and I knew what I was looking for!) because Mitch's instant response is to delete the parent is the worst of these potential outcomes. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No need to threaten me. I went through and batch-reverted the entire mess before I even saw your message, so as not to leave an even bigger one. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:05, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No disagreement here. I think this stuff needs to get actually discussed out a lot more than it currently does, but it's hard to get people to care about categorisation issues outside of their immediate focus of interest, so difficult to do more than hash out the local issues when they arise. (Though I will say more generally that this is an area where I wish everyone would stop unilaterally rearranging the place: the most logical category structures we've established have been the ones where we actually worked out a sensible way to organise things.) The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:14, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in GLAM: May 2018

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Headlines
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  • Wikipedia Library report: Books & Bytes
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Wikidata weekly summary #316

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Re: wheatbelt trainstuff

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No worries ... I try to fix links like that when I can. I've also fixed the Goldfields ones. Graham87 06:44, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strange edit

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Was this an accident? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alps

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Hi, I'm not much involved any more, I'm afraid. You might be better off asking User:Nick Moyes, who seems to be more current (and is certainly more competent and better-informed than I am). Hope that helps, Ericoides (talk) 08:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

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Hello JarrahTree, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

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Thank you for your welcome message and I need your help

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Recently I'm editing a page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate and I am facing the difficulty as another user is keep reverting the page without a solid reason. I need your help or guide me to solve the problem. Thank you.Osmond (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #317

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Books & Bytes – Issue 28

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The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 28, April – May 2018

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O Channel Medan

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O Channel Medan dan O Channel, (DAAITV Hapus Channel) heri Wikipedia di Indonesia, Televisi 49 UHF Medan Group SCM, Goimesi Di frem Loctok Manya --HMRafly9 (talk) 15:24, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your welcome on my talk page. I do appreciate it! --123.161.170.160 (talk) 13:35, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

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Thanks for the welcome :^) Andrew6111 (talk) 04:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #318

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How is giving barnstars to fellow Wikipedias "harassment"?

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How is giving barnstars to fellow Wikipedias "harassment"?

Perth meetup

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Thanks for your message about possible meetup of Perth Wikipedians. I could possibly be interested, though time is of the essence right now. Is this something that is already happening, or a new proposal? Ishel99 (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, it's way past my bed time too... hopefully you don't see this till Saturday! I'll look forward to hearing more about possible meetups... To be honest I;m a very sporadic and undisciplined Wikipedian, but no doubt it's interesting to shoot the breeze and learn a few things! Ishel99 (talk) 15:55, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Meetup

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Hi @JarrahTree: Thanks for the opportunity to catch up. (Always useful to speak to others.) I have now modified my preferences, added various pages to my watchlist, and included myself on the Australian biota group (??), so hopefully we will manage to help each other.. Speak to you soon online. MargaretRDonald (talk) 03:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

bor glimey

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Saw this name and tried to click and say aaaaa…





…aaaaargh, me ol' mate, but it showed the open door of a place I thought was shut. Being a master of navigation, I circumvented your bamboo-sling and I found my way here. Hope you are ported and able, see you anon. cygnis insignis 14:34, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

indeed JarrahTree 14:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

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Tasmania

Thank you for quality articles, beginning in 2005 with Imogiri and Mount Darwin (Tasmania), for welcoming new users, for gnomish tasks such as giving categories a talk page, and adding project tags for several projects, for missing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 June 2018

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Religion

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I welcome the feedback. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Infobox_person_using_religion&pagefrom=Bussie%2C+Victor%0AVictor+Bussie#mw-pages Gene Wilson (talk) 10:51, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your initial response to the edits, (with a question), rather than an 'Undo' and an angry comment. I'm just getting rid of the (8000+) error messages that are produced in the system since they no longer recognize the parameter.
Gene Wilson (talk) 11:26, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]