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Source of content is all CC BY. I am still working on it and will add the final template. Thanks for the patience... Anthere (talk)

@Anthere: If you can show that, then brilliant. But I noticed on your talk page that you don't always choose to add the attribution. That's a bad idea. Adding CC - BY or CC BY SA content without a proper attribution is still a copyright violation (since you're ignoring the terms of the license), and it creates more work for the editors monitoring WP:Copypatrol. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 22:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Yes...it is true I sometimes tend to forget that last bit... I only put it when the text copied gets long... and I do not always plan to do long when I start. I did not plan long in this case. And as I was fixing... I thought the article was really too short, vague and unhelpful. So I improved it... By the time I was done... I forgot... I was not disconnected yet... I was busy translating them in French...
but it stays a rare occurence ! my eyes are crossing, I will stop now. Getting tired. I hope I forgot nothing now. If you notice I forget again, ping me and it will be great !
for your reference, the terms of use are here : https://www.wipo.int/tools/en/disclaim.html. And I am 200% sure they are good because I actually made them change their TOU. Their published texts/reports were in 3.0 IGO initially. But the website terms were unclear. Now the TOU are clear about the CC BY 4.0 for both reports and online content (a good part of their Flickr images are ok as well). Good night and thanks for the little chat. Anthere (talk) 22:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
@Anthere Okay, it's good to know that we're (literally) on the same page. Here's my sticking point.

Except for some content published under more restrictive terms, new WIPO online publications and other online content are issued under an Attribution 4.0 International CC license (CC BY 4.0).

Given that this page is about their Open Access policy that they implemented in 2016, I'm taking "new" to mean "published after Nov. 2016". As this text was available, on the same webpage, prior to that date, it cannot be classified as a new online content. But I see your point- I suppose it depends whether or not the adjective "new" applies strictly to "WIPO online publications" or whether it applies to "other online content" as well. I believe it applies to "other online content" as well. The addition of another adjective in front of "online content" does complicate its interpretation, however, so I see how it could be taken to mean "new WIPO online publications" and then the completely unrelated set of all "other online publications".
I don't like assuming that something is CC BY 4 licensed under a technicality, but thanks to your explanation, I feel much more confident that that your interpretation of their TOU is in line with what organization intends. On top of all the great work you've done, getting them to release so much under the CC BY 4 license, would it be possible for you also get them to swap the order of the sentence so that it reads "online content and new Wipo online publications"? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 23:22, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Nod. That might be an interesting change that would make our life easier. That clarity could be worth it. I am going to share that thought with them. Might take a few months... but would be worth it if they agree. Anthere (talk) 08:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments and review about my additions to the article Ann Marshall.
I write a great deal, and try very hard to change the contents of online sources I use as carefully as possible, but sometimes things slip through as I write relatively long wiki articles.
I've added two sources for Marshall's 4 x 100-meter freestyle world record. Actually, I believe we can quote Wiki as a source if we quote the source used by wiki (though I could be wrong about this) instead of wiki itself. I couldn't find the wiki source on the wiki page article for the record. The information on Marshall's 4 x 100 freestyle world relay record I provided was accurate according to the two new sources I've found to support Marshalls 4x100-meter freestyle relay world record. As the meet was with East Germany, the dual match in 1974 was significant and prophetic. As you may know, East Germany, also known than as the GDR was the American Women's team closest rival in the 1976 Montreal Olympics. The East German women's team was later found to have been using steroids, though they won nearly all the Gold medals, and the American team performed below expectations as a result. Shirley Babashoff wrote a book about the 1976 Olympics and her belief that the East German women's team had been using steroids, which has since been verified. The Olympic committee never changed the official results, though they tried to make certain ammends to the American team. Jim Montgomery, an American 1976 Olympian swam in this meet, as well as in the 1976 Montreal Olympics, in fact he competed against American Olympian Jack Babashoff, Shirley Babashoff's brother. I've since known him as a Master's swimming coach.
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Dcw2003 (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Sorry, forgot to include my return address. Dcw2003 (talk) 15:32, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi @GreenLipstickLesbian thanks for your edit on my Lewis of van page. It's my first ever attempt at creating a historical page and I'm grateful for any help! Sincerely. Demosthenes1999 (talk) 17:58, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Demosthenes1999! Absolutely no problem! Let me know if you need any more help. I can't say I'm an expert in historical family articles, but it seems like a really interesting topic. My best piece of advice is to look at other, similiar articles which have passed a Good Article Review or a Featured Article Review, and see how they're structured, what sort of information they include, what kind of sources they cite, etcetera. Good luck! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 22:12, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll definitely take a look at the good article review and featured article review! It's hard to fit in the time outside of work, and my wife has told me to stop working on the article so much! LOL. It does get very addictive! It might just be me but, I think the bar for getting an article up is actually a lot higher than most people realise. lol. Thanks again. :) Demosthenes1999 (talk) 22:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for helping clean up the Florida State University main article

Thank you for your recent efforts to help clean up the FSU main article. I appreciate it! Sirberus (talk) 11:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Sirberus, it's no problem! Once I saw that the article was under a GAR, I decided I was going to do my best to remove all the close paraphrasing and blatant copyvios as quickly as possible. (Although I do have to thank @Nikkimaria for doing a very comprehensive first pass- and for discovering the issue in the first place). Tensions tend to run really high with CCI investigations, where you have one side frustrated that all their hard work is being damaged because somebody couldn't follow the rules, and the other side frustrated that they have to spend hours to days cleaning up after somebody who should have known better, and neither side gets access to the standard Wikipedia content dispute cycles and procedures such as WP:BRD. I figured the least I could do was try and eliminate as much of the copyright angle as I could. We're all in this thing together, right? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 11:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Yes, we are! I cannot express how much I appreciate your culling out the suspected material. I have spent months (years?) researching sources and then trying to write something useful which meets standard and then edits appear over time which are copy-paste entries. I'll keep chipping away, but thank you for the hard work!Sirberus (talk) 13:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
For your work on CCI. I have a couple of the pages on my watchlist, and I'm constantly impressed by your work. Thank you! ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 02:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
@ARandomName123 😊 thank you so much! And right back at you- I have some CCI pages on my watchlist as well, and it's always a relief to see your name show up because a) I'm not alone in these! and b)I know you've done a good job and the case has just gotten that much easier to work through. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

RE your ANI question

Per the docs of {{Collapse top/bottom}} they don't work with the reply tool, collapse bottom needs to be on its own line. – 2804:F1...B0:83D1 (talk) 02:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I knew it must have been something I was doing wrong! Thank you for telling me, 2804:F1. <3 You know, as much as I'm sure we'd all be happier and more productive if ANI got vanished occasionally, I'd at least like to be doing it intentionally, lol. 02:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC) GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 02:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
It's surprisingly easy to accidentally vanish most of a page, this is the third, and third different way, that I've seen it happen in ~12 days(1st, cause - 2nd). – 2804:F1...B0:83D1 (talk) 02:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Well watch this space if you want to find any more- one of my only compsci classes ended with all three TA's hunched around my laptop, murmuring in hushed tones "But how did she do that?" But seriously, it nice to know I'm not the only one trying to surreptitiously hide half of all Wikipedia pages. Thank you for being on hand to explain what's going on! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 02:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:South Korean Methodist ministers

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Teeny tiny typo

Thanks for your recent helpful Teahouse responses. When I moused-over your username, I spotted a tiny error in your profile text that popped up which you might not have noticed. Instead of saying you "like to create biographies of various woman.", I'm sure you meant to write that you "like to create biographies of various women." I hope you don't mind me flagging this up. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes Ahaha yep, that doesn't....make any sense in context. Lol- thanks for pointing it out! Every day, my existence moves close and closer to being considered soley a make-work project for the typo team and GOCE, I'm sure. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 00:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Mateer (musician)

As you requested, I'm here to let you know that the John Mateer (musician) article was deleted at the AfD, so that you can handle File:Blue Eyes (2024).mp3 and File:Detective Sgt John Mateer at Ground Zero NYC in Sept 2001.jpg. Owen× ☎ 14:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@OwenX Thanks! Now time to add some stuff to Common's backlog. (Reckon we can see it from space yet?) GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 18:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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Copyright violation in Agriculture in Haiti article

You removed a lot of copyrighted text from the article. Fine, no problem, good job. But where did that wall of text come from? I didn't put it there and I don't find any record of it in the list of edits and editors. I don't want to be blamed for it, and since you've omitted the material, why do we need the tag reporting the copyright violation? That tag seems to point the finger at me as the offending party. Why not remove the tag? The situation is resolved. Smallchief (talk)

Never mind. Somebody deleted the tag. But, frankly, I don't see that the tag was necessary in the first place. It casts aspersions without identifying the guilty editor.Smallchief (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
@Smallchief: Okay, please don't worry! It looked like you pasted the entire article into the url parameter. It got flagged on an automated system (WP:COPYPATROL) - so I went to investigate. Once I saw what had happened, and how you immediately self-corrected, I decided to just ask an admin to revdel (wipe) the text from the article history. (You never know which revision web-scrapers are picking from, and it stops anybody from accidentally reverting to the "bad" revision). I didn't warn you, because I could see it was an accident. That copyright violation tag (which has already been removed from the article) wasn't a way of assigning blame, but rather a way of alerting an admin that I needed one of them to delete that very particular revision. It's not casting aspersions- trust me, if I or anybody else thought you'd done it intentionally, I'd have warned you formally, on your talk page, like I've done for many other users.GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 19:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I was disturbed when I saw that tag and wondered what I had done wrong. It makes sense what you've done, so thank you. Smallchief (talk) 19:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
@Smallchief Yeah, it's a pretty scary-looking tag, isn't it? But, while you're here, I really like the work you've been doing on the article. It's already starting to look in much better condition. I especially enjoyed reading the facts about Vetiver you added- I'd never even heard of it before, but it's super interesting! GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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My RFA comment

Sorry, my recent reply to you at RFA was probably a bit too snappy. I guess I just don't like IAR very much because it goes against community consensus. I feel like we spend all this time and effort on RFCs, so we should follow them. There are lots of RFCs that close against my preferred outcome and I always suck it up. For example, I didn't try to vote on day 1 at this RFA even though I have decided I am not a fan of the 2 day waiting period. Anyway, I could have been nicer in my reply to you, so I apologize.

I am calibrating on the issue of striking non-EC votes at RFAs. In the future, I am considering do something different than striking them. Something that is less bitey such as moving them to the discussion section. Let's see how the discussion at WT:RFA shakes out.

Respectfully, –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Novem Linguae For the past few hours, my mind has been very much in a state rapid-fire looping between "I shouldn't have posted that", "I feel like this is straying too close to an argument" and "I'm not behaving in a way I'm proud of". I don't like disagreement, I find it stressful and judgement-clouding, but I should have expressed myself in a less snappish way as well. I'm sorry. Truce?
And, for what it's worth, I can't say I'm a fan of IAR either. I've only ever seen it be used successfully once, when I found a page covered with copyright violations. They weren't blatant enough for the page to be G12-ed, but I needed to trim and re-write the entirety of a page. Then, about thirty minutes later, I found out the page was created by a blocked sockpuppet of the dubiously-notable company the page was about. It was no longer eligible for any speedy deletion criteria, I'd made sure of that- but a nameless rogue admin G5ed the page anyway and saved us all a week in AfD. But it's the only time I've used it successfully - every single other time I've seen somebody try and claim an IAR exemption, it's exactly what you'd expect. But when you see a rule being applied in a way that you don't think even anybody who supported it, or even the person enforcing it, agrees with- it's hard, and I've never been the best at the soft skills needed to deal with situations like that. Give me the binary of black-and-white thinking or give me nothing, I guess. So IAR is not a policy I like either. I'm also hoping that the community finds consensus for the proposal to move non-valid votes to the discussion area. Actually, I think I know what we're both hoping for (lol), but I think that would be a great move and I'm really happy it was proposed. And, tbh, it's going to be way more effective than what I've done. And I see that theleekycauldron has re-instated the vote- so I suppose we can both move on.
But again, I'm sorry. And thank you- your apology means a lot, even if I know I'm not entirely deserving of it. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 04:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
It's all good. Yes, definitely a truce :) Yeah, my first instinct was to be snappy, but when I calmed down and thought about it, it's obvious that we're both acting in good faith and just trying to do what we think is best. Improving the environment for newcomers is important so I totally get where you're coming from.
IAR is tricky because I think it's left over from the early days of Wikipedia. I think as organizations grow and get more complex, they tend to become more bureaucratic, so IAR stops being a particularly good fit. Some might say, "oh, bureaucracy is really bad", but I think it has its place. When an organization gets too big for everyone to know everyone and for any one person to wrap their head around everything, then bureaucracy (rules) can help communicate what other parts of the organization have found to be good practices. In the end I think it can help harmonize things. Although of course it is a tradeoff and it has its downsides.
But enough of me extolling the virtues of bureaucracy. The "virtues of bureaucracy"... what an oxymoron. lol. I'll stop rambling now :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
@Novem Linguae Trust me, I don't think the thought that you could ever have been acting in bad or even neutral faith ever crossed my mind- and I think I would have done what I did regardless of who actually had performed the original strike, and still knowing full well that somebody was likely to undo my action because I was, according to a literal reading, in the wrong. And, under nromal circumstances, I could have stricken the vote myself. For example, if anybody participating in the RfC had brought up old accounts without enough edits, and still decided not to accept their !votes, I would have accepted community consensus and kept my disagreements to the talk. Actually- you were active during that RfC. It's a long way back in internet terms, but do you remember anybody discussing that, or bringing up older accounts with maybe 300 to 400 edits? I'm not seeing anything on the actual discussion, but we all know that discussions fragment. No worries if you don't- I was just curious.
And, no, feel free to ramble away! I'm typically very pedantic when in comes to rules, and I get how the landscape of Wikipedia has changed. I've been flitting around on various IP addresses and the odd account (long abandoned due to accidentally doxing myself) since 2010/2011 or so. I've watched how we've gone from an encylopaedia anybody can edit, built around egalitarian ideals where everybody is treated seriously, to one where we eye unregistered and new accounts with distrust. Which I get, to a certain extent. I've dealt with enough COI editors and spammers to tell that not everybody is acting in good faith all the time- but I actually registered this account, after a long stretch of sporadic IP editing, because I wanted to write stuff, and I knew I couldn't do that as an IP. And I was getting more than a little tired of the way I'd remove some weasel words, or a minor child's name from their parent's article, or some promo sourced directly to the company, only to be hit by some newbie vandal hunter with a "rvv" edit summary. But, you know- I'm not perfect- and my experience at that point was still pretty limited to minor tweaks, WP:CLAIM, and what I thought was common sense . Maybe, after discussion, we might have ended up deciding that what I thought were weasel words were actually ok, and the newbie vandal hunters were just learning the process. And, I knew from experience that if I, unregistered IP, brought it up, the newbie would go on the defensive, bring up LOUTSOCKING or block evading (because IP's never know any Wikipolicy), and nobody would learn anything or leave the conversation with anything more than a bad taste in their mouth.
But that brings me to last year. Due to accidentally spotting an experienced editor committing extensive copyright violations, I started working in CCI. On once CCI in particular - the Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/ChowderRulez CCI- I ended up pdelling everything I couldn't prove was copyvio due to the fact that nearly nothing they wrote was sourced, verifiable, or usable. But, despite how obviously crap their edits were, about 50% or something of their edits were still live by the time I got to them? Which, I mean, TV and cartoon articles can be a mess. Probably nobody was monitoring them. But then, purely by accident, I discovered an old IP address of theirs. Same quality of edits, same number in total, same ratio of copyvio, same usefulness to the project. Obviously, something I as a CCI volunteer, needed to deal with. Or did I? Looking closer at the IP's edits revealed that something like five or six were still live. Actually, no. I mean, they were live, but the more precise way of putting it is that two or three edits hadn't been reverted instantly. The area was being monitored after all, it seems.
So yeah. That's probably more of my Wiki-philosophy than you or anybody else ever wanted to know. And I'm fully aware most people wouldn't see "crap IP edits being reverted wholesale" as a bad thing. Without the context of the fact that we let two 2k to 3k EC accounts get away, for years, the exact same behaviour, I'd actually say that was a good thing. But you're right- we are a bureaucracy and so many of our early Wiki-ideals no longer hold up or have community consensus needed to back them up. And there are some advantages to this system- because you're right, we no longer operate in an environment where everybody knows everybody, and so we do need well-written guidelines, policies, and rules so everybody knows where they're at, and also to prevent chaos and bad actors from hurting the project. I'm just not entirely comfortable with the way some of these policies, especially the ones even the closer, proposer, and !voters concede was chosen for convenience and consistency rather than because anybody thought it would prevent abuse, are being enforced. That's what my IAR un-strike was really about. Because, I think it's clear from this point- the fact than an non-EC editor gets their vote struck in a way nobody agrees with (the only justification I've seen anybody offer is that biting them is worth it if it means keeping out socks) while I, editor who discovered a couple of automated tools and backlog, gets a personalized message isn't something I'm OK with. (Does the editor even know their vote has been moved? Nobody pinged them, or left a message on their talk). The only thing I genuinely regret there was the words I used to express that, once the conversation got heated. Again, apologies. (And I apologise for my apology- I'm no expert, but "I'm sorry- but here's a diatribe on why I'd still do some of what I did again" doesn't feel like the the best example in history! But you can skim over the middle sections if you even feel like reading them- like all wall of texts, it was mostly written for myself). GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing your experiences as an IP editor. Not sure I can relate fully since I've had an account for a very long time, and another account before this. The last time I edited as an IP I probably didn't know about the history tab or talk pages, or care much if I was reverted.
I think I've seen one or two power user-ish IPs handle the situations you've described well. There's no doubt they get improperly reverted more often than logged in users, but I think they usually just start a discussion with the editor. And like most discussions on Wikipedia, either things get hashed out, or other experienced editors get involved in the discussion and nudge things in the right direction.
All this talk of IPs and their treatment makes me want to try some logged out editing for a week or two and see what it's like. It would probably be pretty difficult to work efficiently with no watchlist and no pings/notifications. Too bad that logged out editing would probably be a bad idea for an experienced user due to the risk of violating WP:LOUTSOCK by editing the same talk pages as your logged in account. Not worth the risk.
There's also the obfuscation aspect of it, which reduces accountability, and which makes it harder for people to figure out who you are. Those also seem like minuses. Although the obfuscation aspect fits well with the open source ethos of pro-privacy. Which is another interesting Wikipedia dichotomy: we value both privacy and transparency at the same time. How is that supposed to work? That's kind of like having IAR yet being a giant bureaucracy at the same time. Lol.
IPs are an interesting mix of positive and negative. They do a lot of vandalism and poor editing, but they also do a lot of content writing too. Pros and cons. I guess the fact that it's so easy to edit is good for editor recruitment too. The barrier to entry is practically non-existent. WP:BEBOLD.
The IP edits on my watchlist definitely get checked by me more since they vandalize more. I have WP:POPUPS installed, so if I see that an IP or a brand new user made an edit, I hover over the diff and it shows me in a popup what the changes were. Whereas if it's an edit by an experienced user, and I'm not interested in checking it, I'll click it open in a new tab to mark it as read on my watchlist, without checking its contents. That's just how things are I guess. IP edits contain more vandalism so need more checking.
I also find my user highlighter script indispensable. Certain behaviors just correlate really strongly to experience level, so for me it's super useful to see that. Like, my user highlighter shows me that you're an NPP, so that gives me useful information about your experience level. Like, you're far enough along on your Wikipedia journey to have started cracking our byzantine notability guidelines. I suspect the proud of editing as an IP folks and egalitarian folks would dislike the idea of a user highlighter script, since that is inherently hierarchical.
WMF is going to roll out IP masking in the next 6–12 months, I think. That is going to give IPs more stable usernames and pings/notifications, but not watchlists. That will be an interesting change that will alter the current dynamics of IP editing. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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DYK for Nicole Chang-Leng

On 17 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nicole Chang-Leng, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nicole Chang-Leng has been described as a "daughter" of the Seychelles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nicole Chang-Leng. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nicole Chang-Leng), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—Kusma (talk) 00:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
For your copyright work in general, but especially for these thoughtful and helpful comments. asilvering (talk) 23:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
(any chance I can convince you to write up a little guide on the subject?) -- asilvering (talk) 23:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
@Asilvering I don't really know what to say other than thank you, and I'm glad that somebody is finding that wall of text remotely useful! If somebody else promises to ruthlessly edit it, I'd be willing to get the ball rolling on a guide. But seriously- thank you for your kind words. It's always a pleasure to see you around the project. ❤️ GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Happy to be the red pen, if you want to get it started! -- asilvering (talk) 21:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

I just wanted to thank you for your feedback and to let you know that I am taking it very seriously. I am currently re-viewing the attribute requirements for copying across Wikipedia to ensure I have a better handle on the past practices moving forward. I also recognize that as an admin, I will be recognized as being more knowledgable, which comes with great responsibility. I do not take this lightly. Do not hesitate to call into question any of my actions moving forward. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

@Significa liberdade Thanks for posting this. I know I really left my second comment to literally the last minute. n hindsight, I should have double-checked how long you'd have had to respond. I also should have modified my "strong" oppose. With the information I had when I made it, I felt it was necessary. But with your explanation? No. It wasn't fair, and it wasn't fair for me to leave it like that. I should have struck it before the auto-hold went into place. And, if I'd had longer to think it over, I might have even moved back into neutral.
For what it's worth, if you do fix the issues I pointed out (mostly the attribution ones), then I meant what I said in my original support- I'll be satisfied. And I don't think you're a bad person, I do think you're a net positive to the Wikipedia community, I respect you as an editor, and you can't forget that the community found consensus to trust you with the tools. That's the biggest vote of confidence somebody can receive on here, and even I don't think my last-minute comments would have swayed it to anything lower than the discretionary zone. You also have the respect and support of three out of the four editors whose opinions I respect the most - one of them even nominated you. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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