Talk:UEFA Euro 2024

Czechia & Türkiye

They are using Czechia why can't Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.113.9 (talk) 20:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, I swear it was down as Czechia before - can't seem to find when it changed. Has this been discussed? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't see it being discussed on this page anyway

thanks for the reply 97.116.113.9 (talk) 20:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

The country's article is located at Czech Republic, and the national team at Czech Republic national football team. We will not switch to "Czechia" unless there is consensus that the country's common name has changed. Similar to why we aren't using "Türkiye", or "Côte d'Ivoire" in other articles. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Wow, there really is a massive thread at Talk:Czech Republic. Probably best to wait until an RM changes on there. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I think it should be written as "Czechia". Eitan Drutman (talk) 13:57, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Based on what? We can't make changes here just based on what people think, it has to be based on sources. – PeeJay 14:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Because that's how it is written in the offical games... Eitan Drutman (talk) 14:16, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

What about in third-party sources? What do news websites say? The BBC says Czech Republic and Turkey, not Czechia and Türkiye. So does The Guardian. – PeeJay 16:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia prefer to use the third-party name(s)/way instead of the official name(s)/way? Eitan Drutman (talk) 18:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I do agree that official sources should be preferred over third-party sources, but in this case there's more to it than just the source. This is about practices in the English language. Czech Republic and Turkey can make statements about how they call themselves, but they cannot dictate how people from other countries, speaking other languages, call them. Imagine Germany would 'dictate' that everyone across the world should call them Deutschland, no matter what language they speak. That makes absolutely no sense. And that's exactly the case with Turkey. Czech Republic is a slightly different case, but it still goes that they cannot dictate how they are called. Hhl95 (talk) 21:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I mostly talk about Czechia. Not Turkey. Turkey should stay Turkey without a doubt imo. But Czechia is something else. Eitan Drutman (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

There is a section named "Adoption of Czechia" in the Wikipedia article Name of the Czech Republic, where it contains citations for Czech Football Association adopting Czechia on 24 May 2022. The citation is in Czech, and I can't read Czech, but a cursory glance on that Wikipedia article (cursory read is a dangerous thing I know) seems to contain a lot of citations in that article. But I haven't gone into checking the edit history of that article to see if many of those changes were made recently (within the proximity of Euro 2024). However, if that's Czech Football Association's official stance on its naming, it does make a strong case of needing to change the name from Czech Republic to Czechia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.237.17.220 (talk) 06:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I think we should really defer to the title of the article in question Czech Republic national football team. If that were to have a successful RM, then it should change here. But that would likely change based on the Czech Republic article Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

UEFA gives Czechia and Türkiye [1].--Anatoliy (Talk) 19:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

yeah, but we don't exactly go off what UEFA says. Usually we would go with what third party sources say about this, but in this context there is a lot of other things to keep in mind. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia prefer to use the third-party name(s)/way instead of the official name(s)/way? Eitan Drutman (talk) 18:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

The what? Wikipedia summarises what third party reliable sources say about a subject. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Why not use the official (UEFA's) names though? Eitan Drutman (talk) 18:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Because that’s against Wikipedia’s policies.Tvx1 21:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough. Eitan Drutman (talk) 17:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm firmly on the side of those who think these countries should be referred by the names used by FIFA/UEFA. I've put something on the talk page of Turkey national football team to try to start a discussion about this, as it doesn't seem to have been discussed yet. US Referee (talk) 15:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

And what policy or guideline are you basing that on?? Using official names goes against our established practice. This is the English language wikipedia and we use common English language names, not official ones. This wikipedia has never prioritized official names. Every other language Wikipedia refers to the these countries in that Wikipedia’s language. There just isn’t any reason no to do so on the English language wikipedia.Tvx1 21:11, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be useful to separate the issue for the names Czechia and Türkiye. Even if both are essentially attempts by the respective countries to rebrand themselves internationally (de facto, in English), the adoption of both names in general English parlance is not identical. Naturally, all language is in flux, and it could be a question of "when" rather than "if" for both cases, but I suspect "Czechia" will _very soon_ replace the verbose "Czech Republic" in everyday speach. At the same time, I can image "Türkiye" always feeling like a foreign word to English speakers. But really this should not be a question on this page, but for wikipedia-wide discussion. KeithWM (talk) 21:32, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Take a look at the talk pages of those countries (Talk:Czech Republic and Talk:Turkey) and you'll see it has indeed been talked about in depth. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@KeithWM You are right about language being in flux. One of the authoritative style guides in the US, the AP Stylebook, continues to recommend "Turkey", but they have moved to saying either "Czechia" or "Czech Republic" is acceptable, but if the former is used, it should be mentioned that it's more widely known as the Czech Republic at some point in the article. But since this is a change that, if/when it happens, will affect all of Wikipedia, it makes sense that it happens at the talk pages for the respective nations' articles. —C.Fred (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out! I think I did try to look for them before, but missed them. Annoyingly it seems like a discussion I would like to get involved in (at leat for Czechia), but is so deep in Wikipedia jargon and idiosyncracy that I cannot see how to actually contribute. KeithWM (talk) 22:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Stadium names

In the list of venues, near the top of the page, the venues are given generic names like 'Munich Arena', in line with UEFA guidelines about sponsorship.

However, in (for example) the details about the group stage, the venues are given their names with any associated sponsorship: for example, Allianz Arena, Munich. This seems inconsistent and confusing.

Perhaps this discrepancy could be dealt with. 2A02:A31B:85D5:7880:D1C3:D955:74D2:57A0 (talk) 19:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This has now been corrected. We are not UEFA, we have our own guidelines on titling articles based on the WP:COMMONNAME. If the title of the article is Allianz Arena, we should use this consistently throughout articles. Anyone who disagrees on the title is welcome to open a WP:RM. S.A. Julio (talk) 21:25, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I understand. But UEFA (the organisers of the competition) are saying that, for example, the opening game (Germany 5 - Scotland 1) took place at the Munich Arena. Wikipedia is saying that it took place at the Allianz Arena, Munich.

For the purposes of keeping Wikipedia as an enduring record, shouldn't there be consistency in the log of the entire tournament. At present, there isn't. 2A02:A31B:85D5:7880:AFDD:3347:754B:8B94 (talk) 18:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

We don't have to match what UEFA does. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

A name which changes every few years cause the sponsor changes, is hardly a common name. And I don't know about other countries, but in my country the fans hardly use the name with the sponsor in it, but the name they been used to forever. --Sb008 (talk) 22:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Do you even do any research of a subject you comment on? The name of the Allianz Arena has never changed since its inauguration. It‘s the only name it really ever had. It is its undisputed common name. Allianz Arena is the name the fans have been used to forever. Tvx1 14:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2024 (2)

Remove this note in the Tiebreaking section:

If there is a three-way tie on points, the application of the first three criteria may only break the tie for one of the teams, leaving the other two teams still tied. In this case, the tiebreaking procedure is resumed, from the beginning, for the two teams that are still tied.

Where is this interpretation of the tie-breaking regulations coming from? It is not found in the UEFA regulations and that is not how I interpret point 4.

In the case of Group E, a single application of criteria 1 through 3 has broken all ties. First Ukraine and Slovakia by point 2 (goal difference), then Romania and Belgium by point 3 (goals scored)

If it only broke the tie for one team at a time, Ukraine would have come out last in the first application and across only the games of the other three, Slovakia would have won by points before Belgium in second and Romania third. 77.213.92.227 (talk) 19:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done. The clarifying note is correct. You cleary misunderstood the meaning of the word may here. The note does not claim that ties are broken one at a time. Lastly, your example is a four-way tie, not a three way-one.Tvx1 22:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2024 (3)

2A00:23C6:1ED4:3F01:342B:E62:EAB2:C101 (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

To be able to edit the current top scorer of the competition

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

minor error

Statistics -> Discipline : Anzor Mekvabishvili
should be Yellow card in Group F vs Czech Republic (matchday 2; 22 June 2024))
instead of Yellow card in Group F vs Czech Republic (matchday 1; 18 June 2024) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.186.26.25 (talk) 23:08, 26 Jun 2024 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 23:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2024

Change the top goal scorer to Own Goals 76.24.178.229 (talk) 12:45, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done

Best scorers

Ivan Schranz of the Slovak team scored 3 goals! He should be added to the table! 95.103.15.214 (talk) 17:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Poland national football team and Poland Matches against Netherlands, Austria and France

At 16 June 2024, in Volksparkstadion, Hamburg, started in Group D against Netherlands, France and Austria, Poland have a dramatic loss in the 1st Match by 1-2 result against Netherlands, 5 days later, at 21 June 2024, in Olympiastadion, Berlin, Poland in 2nd Match have a next tragic loss by result 1-3 against Austria, and 4 days later, at 25 June 2024, in Westfalenstadion, Dortmund, Poland in the 3rd Match have a classic draw by result 1-1 against France, this is many times speaking about the form of the Poland National Football Team, potential of Poland and Polish association football, potential of Robert Lewandowski, Krzysztof Piątek, Wojciech Szczęsny, Piotr Zieliński and many other Polish players, potential of Poland's Manager Michał Probierz and potential results of Poland in the next matches! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.29.183.238 (talk) 02:37, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Diogo Costa's 3 saves in penalty shootout being the first time that's been done at the Euros?

The commentator on ITV said that no goalkeeper had ever saved 3 goals in a penalty shootout at the Euros before. I don't understnd how to edit the main page (have never edited something on Wikipedia before) and can't be bothered to find a reference for it but maybe someone could verfiy and add it to the statistics section if it turns out to be true? Thanks :) 31.94.0.95 (talk) 22:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Elimination of Germany (Host)

Germany (Host) was eliminated by Spain in the second half of extra time in quarter-finals. Germany was denied a clear penalty, Cucurella's handball, on Musiala's shot. This is not an opinion, it is an objective fact!!! and it should at least be mentioned!!!--Matteo29Q (talk) 21:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

References

Inconsistency in Map Key colour - Proposed Change

There is an inconsistency between the key and map colour for "Runner-up" under Group stage section. I propose it be changed for consistency and clarity, but I'm relatively new to Wikipedia and don't want to make a mistake. Beedlejoos (talk) 06:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2024

During yet another pitch invasion during the semi-final between Spain and France, a security guard chasing the invader accidentally slid into Spanish striker Álvaro Morata, who suffered an injury as a consequence and was substituted off.

"who suffered an injury as a consequence and was substituted off" needs deleting as the incident happened after the game Bermanater91 (talk) 14:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Left guide (talk) 08:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2024

switch top scorers in overview, olmo and schranz, SL comes before SP in alphabet 2A01:B340:86:78DD:40C:3EFB:818F:848A (talk) 11:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

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Max top scorers is 5?

@Island92 Can you please explain why you removed the list of six top scorers from the infobox? UEFA Euro 2012 seems to have six with no issue. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 23:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Also Euro 2012 shoud be fixed. Island92 (talk) 04:07, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Is there any actual agreement or Manual of Style that writes the max amount of top scorers shown in the infobox is five players or is it just a personal preference? HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 15:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Not a personal preference. Once admin told me in the infobox max five players. Island92 (talk) 15:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Not that I don't believe you (I fixed the Euro 2012 page accordingly), but I would like to see where was this said, just curious as to their reasoning. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Old archive talk page in the Wiki Project Football. Island92 (talk) 04:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Euro 2024 Information

A comprehensive overview of UEFA Euro 2024:

Overview:

UEFA Euro 2024** is the 17th edition of the UEFA European Championship, the prestigious football tournament for national teams in Europe organized by UEFA (Union of European Football Associations).

Host Country

- Germany** will host Euro 2024. This will be Germany's second time hosting the tournament; previously, West Germany hosted it in 1988.

Dates

- The tournament is scheduled to take place from **June 14 to July 14, 2024**.

1. 1. 1. Venues

- Euro 2024 will be played across ten cities in Germany, each with its own stadium:

 1. **Berlin** - Olympiastadion (Capacity: 70,000)
 2. **Munich** - Allianz Arena (Capacity: 70,000)
 3. **Dortmund** - Signal Iduna Park (Capacity: 65,849)
 4. **Gelsenkirchen** - Veltins-Arena (Capacity: 54,740)
 5. **Stuttgart** - Mercedes-Benz Arena (Capacity: 54,244)
 6. **Hamburg** - Volksparkstadion (Capacity: 52,245)
 7. **Leipzig** - Red Bull Arena (Capacity: 42,959)
 8. **Cologne** - RheinEnergieStadion (Capacity: 49,827)
 9. **Frankfurt** - Deutsche Bank Park (Capacity: 48,500)
 10. **Düsseldorf** - Merkur Spiel-Arena (Capacity: 51,031)

Tournament Format

- **24 teams** will participate, divided into **six groups** of four teams each. - The top two teams from each group, along with the four best third-placed teams, will advance to the **round of 16** knockout stage.

Qualification

- **Qualification Matches**: Teams from 55 UEFA member associations compete for the 24 spots. - **Play-offs**: Teams that don't qualify directly through the group stage will have a chance via the play-offs, determined by their performance in the UEFA Nations League.

Key Dates

- Qualifying Draw**: October 2022 - Qualifying Matches**: March 2023 - November 2023 - Play-Offs**: March 2024

Defending Champion

- Italy won the previous edition, Euro 2020, held in 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Mascot and Logo

- The tournament has its official mascot and logo, reflecting German culture and football enthusiasm.

Broadcasting and Coverage

- The tournament will be broadcast globally, with major networks covering matches live. Streaming services and official UEFA platforms will provide extensive coverage, including highlights and analysis.

Fan Experience

- Germany plans to host fan zones and public viewing areas across host cities, ensuring a vibrant football atmosphere for fans.

Economic Impact

- Hosting Euro 2024 is expected to boost Germany's economy through tourism, infrastructure development, and job creation.

Tickets and Travel

- Tickets for matches will be available through official UEFA channels. Fans are advised to plan early due to high demand.

Legacy

- Germany aims to leave a lasting legacy by promoting football at all levels and enhancing sports infrastructure nationwide. 2405:201:402D:90D4:F1FE:2674:CEB:5A6E (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Inaccessibility of statement promoting inclusion

In Marketing > Brandinding, the tooltip translating the second sentence is inaccessible to keyboard-only users: ‘The official slogan of the tournament is "United by Football. Vereint im Herzen Europas." The slogan was chosen to promote diversity and inclusion.’

This hardly fits with the stated reason for the slogan — to promote inclusion.

I suggest that the translation be made visible for all users (Fixed on Sep 17, 2024, by CrazyBuilder (talk) 09:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)).

There is also the wider question of whether such a tooltip should be used on any page. CrazyBuilder (talk) 14:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

"Records" sub-section - WP:TRIVIA

It looks like "Records" sub-section is a flat out trivia section, which falls under WP:TRIVIA. Maybe there's a posibility of someone brave enough to write a "Summary" section, something similar to 2024 World Snooker Championship? Konepe123 (talk) 12:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)