Talk:Rhodesia/Archive 3

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Vague / subjective description in first paragraph

Regarding the text “ruled with an iron fist” in the first paragraph. To me this seems like quite a vague, subjective and metaphorical description - there’s no specifics about what “ruled with an iron fist” means in this instance, and no citations given. I feel that the language should be tightened up - specifics given, or a citation to a historical text to which readers could refer if they want details on how this person ruled. To me this language undermines confidence in the article’s veracity. I’m keen to know what others think. Smashingly (talk) 09:24, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Unrecognised state

This is tendentious nonsense. A state is a physical fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.79.156.110 (talk) 11:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

A state is not a physical fact, other states must agree that it is sovereign. Helioz9 (talk) 11:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

untitled

Sorry. I’ve been looking for the demographics of Rhodesia bu found nothing. What ws the percentage of the white pupolation in 1965 and in 1978? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.31.18 (talk) 04:08, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

"self-government" in lede

Currently a sentence in the lede reads:

"Rhodes and his Pioneer Column marched north in 1890, acquiring a huge block of territory that the company would rule until the early 1920s. In 1923, the company's charter was revoked, and Southern Rhodesia attained self-government and established a legislature."

I'm wondering if we could modify "self-government" here. I know that this is the official/customary term here, but if you were coming into this article with no context you might take "self-government" to mean that the entire population was participating in the country's governance, when in fact it was only a small minority composed of European settlers. This is important because it sets the stage for the entire rest of the country's 20th century history. Would "and Southern Rhodesia's white minority attained self-government" or the like be appropriate? --Jfruh (talk) 18:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

The use of "self-government" is misleading. And White Supremacists are currently rallying behind nostalgia for this state, let's not help them. 47.217.109.142 (talk) 02:30, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

It would seem that the issue of self-governance has to do with not being governed by another country. The issue of who was doing the governing is properly a topic for inclusion in the article. BoonDock (talk) 12:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)