Talk:Lyle and Erik Menéndez

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Bob Menendez redirect

I think the redirect should go to a disambiguation page since Bob Menendez is now a U.S. senator. But I don't know how to do this. Bruxism 19:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Erik's age

According to his date of birth and time of murders, Erik was just 17 years old. Isn't this technically a minor and thus could be sentenced as a juvenile? Although even 14-15 year old murderers get sentenced as adults, just wondering if his age was a consideration at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.155.106 (talk) 22:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

From my experience with the court systems (misdeamonors, minor crimes) they consider you an adult in the eyes of the law at 16. You can no longer use your youthful offender (get out of jail free with no record) at 16. This may vary from state to state, however. I'm speaking from a Connecticut perspective. I would assume that it would be incredibly rare for age to have a bearing on any serious crimes if they were 16 years old or older. Tainted42 18:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's common knowledge that Erik was 18 years old at the time of the killings. He was born in 1970, not 1971. Smitty48 (talk) 13:13, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Judalon Smyth

Check the facts. Judalon Smyth, L. Jerome Oziel's mistress, went to the police after Oziel let her listen to a tape he had made of the confession. Oziel was the psychiatrist whom the Wiki article mentions as threatened by Erik. The facts in this article should be verified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Altj1 (talk • contribs) 12:55, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Parents' wealth

Any idea what happened to the remainder of the family fortune? Juve2000 (talk) 02:47, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/05/us/estate-left-menendezes-by-parents-is-dwindling.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.52.146.12 (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely, the defense attorneys for Erik and Lyle Menendez got it all. — Quicksilver^{T @} 20:32, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gratuitous mention of irrelevant brand names?

This might seem a trivial issue, but isn't this article absolutely swimming in brand names? It's almost as though it's trying hard to rub in how wealthy the family in question was- making for a really annoying read. I'm not saying that including these are completely baseless, but detailing the brand of the car, watch, or firearm every single time one is mentioned is quite inconsequential and detracts from the article's continuity and quality. Or is it just me? —Tshloab (talk) 03:13, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree. I suggest the name of the restaurant that was purchased might be good to edit. I came here hoping to help with the backlog of BLPs lacking references, but this article seems fully referenced. As a newbie, I do not understand why this is not published and then edited further as needed. I also don't understand this much discussion without any actual "be bold" editing. Responses welcome! — Anne9853 (talk) 23:05, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Missing paragraph in the Crime section

I noticed that part of the article seems to have been deleted from the crime section. The section goes from describing the indictment to the retrial trial. It entirely skips the 1st, more controversial trial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.129.225 (talk) 20:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lyle Menendez' birthplace

There is confusion about Lyle Menendez' birthplace. The article, based on one Web reference, says just "Illinois". Some other Web sources say New York City, New York. NNDB says Cedar Grove, New Jersey. Which one is correct? — Quicksilver^{T @} 20:32, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely, it was New York City, based on the Crime Library article by Rachel Pergament. She writes that Jose and Kitty Menendez moved to Illinois in 1969 with their infant son, Joseph Lyle. Jose had been working for the accounting firm of Coopers & Lybrand, which apparently had offices in Manhattan. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean the couple lived in New York City at the time of their son's birth; they could have lived in one of a number of nearby towns, with him commuting to his job; Cedar Grove, New Jersey, is not out of the question. Pergament's article does, however, rule out Illinois as the birthplace. — Quicksilver^{T @} 21:47, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last Man Standing

I somewhat doubt that this crime was mentioned in this movie when you take into consideration the fact that it was set in the 1930s. 2A02:C7F:7401:8700:540C:AEBC:15D5:7307 (talk) 14:23, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Menéndez vs Menendez

Should this be formatted as "Menéndez" in the title? --Jennica✿ / ^talk 04:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jennica: I've fixed it.★Trekker (talk) 21:50, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Picture

The same picture is used for Lyle and Erik. Its Erik's picture twice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:186:4580:1387:4D61:6AED:343B:3BBE (talk) 13:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Gunshots

I've seen multiple sources state the total number of gunshots was 15, but if Jose Menendez received 6 shots and Kitty Menendez got 10, that would add up to 16 shots total. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?

(I did a simple Google search and multiple articles listed the 15-shot total) 66.91.36.8 (talk) 20:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Popular Culture

In Season 8 Episode 20 (1996) "Married with Children", Al references them in a joke. Drsruli (talk) 06:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

What about gun residue on the hands 2600:6C4A:4FF0:990:B4DE:7E5E:9160:7335 (talk) 23:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the TV documentary I just watched, the police did not test them as initially the authorities did not consider the brothers to be suspects.

Wschart (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

People Article Notesd That The Brothers claimed Abuse Stopped When Lyle Was 8 and Erik Was 6

It is a good article.[1]

 That is miscommunication. As what is stated in the portion of the article "The brothers claimed that when Lyle was about 8 years old, José stopped sexually abusing him and began sexually abusing 6-year-old Erik." Notice the key word, "began"?[2]

I Don't Trust Rossello's Credibility

He also previously made a separate sex abuse claim which was able to get televised in 2014.[3] Though his claim against Edgardo Diaz would lead to the a police investigation in 2023, [4] it has still not resulted in any breakthrough. I like claims that are neutral and with good credibility.Speakfor23 (talk) 20:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's some sense of credibility, whether we disagree or not. Erik Menendez himself witness Rosello going into a room with Jose Menendez (in 1985, the year of said assault). Right now, it's plausible speculation at this point of time. Edfl22 (talk) 03:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know why there’s no page for the brothers father Jose? Seems strange.

I was searching Wikipedia and I could not find an article for the 2 brothers father (and victim) Jose. I find it odd since he was a Hollywood producer and a major figure at the now defunct Caralco pictures. There's no mention of him on the Wikipedia article in the article on Caralco either. Does anyone else find this strange or have an explanation as to why this is? Thanks for any reply in advance! Dacroce1 (talk) 06:11, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dacroce1 Was there an article at some point before that's gotten deleted? If not, then it's likely that the reason is just that no one has gotten around to it. You might want to check if there is a draft for it. If there isn't, you could create one. Mjks28 (talk) 07:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reply! There's plenty of news articles on the the father so it wouldn't be too difficult to create with citations from those sources. Please forgive my typos as I tend to type quickly and fail to proofread! Dacroce1 (talk) 03:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]