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Expatriate in Chile

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Maxwell's parents were British nationals in Chile. This make her British by birth, but she was an expatriate, because she was in Chile. People who are children of nationals of one country born in a different country, are expatriates of that country born in a seperate country, and we categorize them as such. Expatriates are not immigrants. They have a fixed nationality, and are living outside that nation.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:37, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting – thanks for your explanation. As you say, Phillips was born of English parents while they were living in Chile. The family returned to England while she was still a child, and she lived the rest of her life in England and is only notable for her work in England. However, I've looked at some of the other people in Category:British expatriates in Chile and it appears that simply being born in the other country is enough to qualify for that category, which doesn't really tie in with my understanding of the word "expatriate"; or Collins ED definition: (inter alia) "n. a person who lives in a foreign country"; or wikt:expatriate.
To me WP's categorisation seems illogical and confusing, and ten years ago I'd probably have started searching for archived discussions in preparation for building a persuasive argument against this – but not today...  —Smalljim  00:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Under the Chilean Constitution of 1833, she would also be a Chilean citizen by virtue of her birth there, as her parents were not diplomats. Both the UK and Chile allow dual citizenship, and did at the time. It is more than a stretch to call a Chilean citizen living in Chile an expat. Banks Irk (talk) 03:32, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]