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Incorrect Ottoman conqueror

The article mistakenly says "Palestine was conquered by Turkish Sultan Selim II in 1516–17" instead of Selim I. His grandson Selim II ruled from 1566 to 1574.

Several incorrect historical names of peoples and lands

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There are several times through out the article named peoples and lands that did not exists at the time periods eg. Israelites and Palestinians, as well as Israel and Palestine. You should not use Israelites to describe a people from 12th century nor regard the land never recognized as Palestine until the 20th century. Correct names for those time periods should be used to show historic accuracy instead of current political sides. In it's current form this article is useless and totally inaccurate. As the article is extended protected there only a few who have priviledges to make the changes. Jmhelin79 (talk) 15:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, anything regarding Palestine and israel is not accurately portrayed. As a former teacher I forbade my students to cite wp. Thank you 69.92.108.244 (talk) 21:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There never was a Palestine and never will 2001:BB6:DB0F:E500:D7D8:A7D6:E88E:B216 (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was no ancient land of Israel. Palestine, Canaan or Judea. Israel is a people in the bible. 69.92.108.244 (talk) 21:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There never was a land called Palestine and never will 2001:BB6:DB0F:E500:D7D8:A7D6:E88E:B216 (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So all the ancient archeological proof of the existence of Israel (coins, structures, books, tools,etc.. with hebrew letters on them) it's all a lie about the existence of Israel? 84.110.118.78 (talk) 05:22, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary etymology

This section appears unnecessary: it defies the entire point of an inter-linked digital encyclopedia. Iskandar323 (talk) 22:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish communities Crusader period

See this link Cambridge History of Judaism Hectorhako (talk) 15:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change Land of Israel to the historically accepted name Palestine. 2601:348:401:A200:21B7:AF44:F060:B3E8 (talk) 22:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. --AntiDionysius (talk) 22:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To refer to the region as Palestine in 1200BC would be historically inaccurate, and the article does refer to it as Palestine after the Muslim conquests, so I'm not sure what the issue is. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]