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While it's not copy-pasted from the Wikipedia article, this has some close paraphrasing and follows the structure and info. Therefore, it is probably not suitable to use as a source per WP:CIRCULAR. Kingsif (talk) 13:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that although cyclist Daniela Larreal thought in 2004 that she would only have a few more years in her career, she was preparing for the 2016 Summer Olympics when forced into exile?
@Kingsif: Note that if a subject is featured on ITN under Recent deaths, it remains eligible for DYK. DYK ineligibility only applies to bolded links in blurbs (so for example, Paetongtarn Shinawatra is ineligible for DYK for one year after the blurb was posted), but not to Recent deaths entries. With that in mind, are you sure you want to withdraw the nomination instead of allowing it to proceed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
TBH, I think your original thought made sense. The big picture of our rules is to show our readers a variety of topics. If we show them something that they've just seen in a different main page section, regardless of how we wiki-lawyer the exceptions, it's still going to be repetitive. RoySmith(talk)22:29, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why that's an issue. RDs have run on DYK many times before and the rules explicitly allow for it. Besides, RD just shows a person's name whereas DYK gives more information, so they work differently and can co-exist. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It'll get accepted or it won't, I wanted to save someone the time reviewing this, but I guess the info's there that they could deny it anyway. Kingsif (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: As noted above, the DYK Criteria specifically allow for appearances in ITN's RD section (and OTD's deaths/births section). 5x expansion confirmed, Earwig detected no copyvio (with Spanish sources, so AGF). Hook facts were confirmed with Google translate. Original hook is interesting, but I'm wondering if it would be fruitful to play up the exile aspect... something like ALT 1 ... that cyclist Daniela Larreal competed in five Olympic games for a country that exiled her? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Crisco 1492: I honestly don't have an opinion on that, though wouldn't have suggested it myself due to things like the Refugee Olympic Team and potential confusion. Your hook suggestion would need another reviewer, and I'm happy to wait for someone to do that if you think it's a good idea. Kingsif (talk) 21:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I actually, I do think ALT1 is a better option than the original hook. ALT0 is rather complicated and long, while ALT1 is snappier and catchier and thus better meets the guidelines. I'm willing to approve ALT1 if both of you are okay with it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Self-withdrawing as this is currently at ITN (as RD). Kingsif (talk) 22:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: If that's the case, happy to proceed with it, and I've struck my last comment. Kingsif (talk) 15:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
As noted above, the DYK Criteria specifically allow for appearances in ITN's RD section (and OTD's deaths/births section). 5x expansion confirmed, Earwig detected no copyvio (with Spanish sources, so AGF). Hook facts were confirmed with Google translate. Original hook is interesting, but I'm wondering if it would be fruitful to play up the exile aspect... something like ALT 1 ... that cyclist Daniela Larreal competed in five Olympic games for a country that exiled her? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
I actually, I do think ALT1 is a better option than the original hook. ALT0 is rather complicated and long, while ALT1 is snappier and catchier and thus better meets the guidelines. I'm willing to approve ALT1 if both of you are okay with it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
