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Re-creation

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I've recreated Benjamin Abalos, Jr. after having deleted it attempting to restore the "Ben Hur" redirect. Although I have removed much of the content due to copyright concerns, I may not have addressed all those issues. Any help with copy editing would be appreciated. Thanks Tiderolls 16:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 October 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans 07:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Benjamin Abalos Jr.Benhur Abalos – Most RS use the name "Benhur". Examples Inquirer (Uses "Benhur Abalos Jr."), GMA, Rappler, Sun Star (Uses "Benhur Abalos Jr."), etc. "Benhur Abalos Jr." is also popular, even more popular than his birth name "Benjamin Abalos Jr,", but that's kinda wrong as his father was not named "Benhur". Howard the Duck (talk) 04:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the redirect Benhur Abalos and his nickname in the lead would be enough. Or, renaming it as Benjamin "Benhur" Abalos Jr. can do, according to MOS:NICKNAME. Benhur Abalos on the title might make some misconception if the reader doesn't read further about his birth name. RFNirmala (talk) 11:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia never does name the articles this way: "Benjamin "Benhur" Abalos Jr." Either it's "Benjamin Abalos Jr." or "Benhur Abalos". This should also distinguish him from his namesake father. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Howard the Duck I understand. Still, unless there's some other rule, I prefer keeping **Benjamin Abalos Jr.** RFNirmala (talk) 00:13, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The rule is if one name is preferred by the RS over all others, that's what we'll use. Sources using "Benhur" are currently more numerous than "Benjamin". Howard the Duck (talk) 00:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Biography, Tambayan Philippines, and WikiProject Biography/Politics and government have been notified of this discussion. HueMan1 (talk) 00:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.