Talk:Bebe Patten

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Con artistry

This page needs some work--it completely fails to mention that C. Thomas Patten was a con artist who was convicted of fraud and sent to prison in 1950. The Pattens were enriching themselves with the funds from the ministry. The Pattens' story of fraud is told in Jay Robert Nash's classic Hustlers and Con Men book, as well as in the last chapter of Maria Konnikova's recent book, The Confidence Game. Lippard (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that the page needs work. I added some info. Nash has a poor reputation for accuracy, but it is fun to read. ^[1] The New Yorker did an in depth piece on the Pattens, shortly after the death of C. Patten. I have added it to the main page, as I try to fill in details. Both Nash and Konnikova used this article for information. ^[2] Nereocystis (talk) 19:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC) Nereocystis (talk) 19:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources

Coming here after an AfD. During the AfD, I was able to find an article from the Oakland Tribune on the expansion of a school she founded in the 1970s, a several page-long story about Patten herself from the 70s, a bylined story from Oakland Tribune about Patten herself, and a staff-written obit of Patten from 2004. These might be useful in improving the article going forward, so I'm dropping them here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 20:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding history

I'm trying to add some real history of both C. Thomas and Bebe. In a way, it is turning the story article into a dual story, because it is difficult to split Bebe's from that of Thomas, though only Thomas was charged and convicted, and not Bebe. My plan is to update Bebe's page, and then update Patten University page. I added a link citations to a 1959 New Yorker story, shortly after Thomas's death, as well as many Oakland Tribune articles. I have lived in Oakland for many years. 10 or so years ago, a few signs were put up directing people to Patten University, which I had not heard of before. When I read the Konnikova book, I thought it was a good idea to update these articles. Nereocystis (talk) 20:53, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Author threatens to sue, deemed unfit as source by Michael Snow, The Signpost, April 24, 2006. Accessed August 20, 2024.
^ Taper, Bernard (17 January 1959). "Annals of Crime -- Somebody is Going to Get Hit". The New Yorker. pp. 33–71. Retrieved 9 September 2024.. The Oakland Tribune has lots of info from 1944 onward.

[SignPost-1] Author threatens to sue, deemed unfit as source by Michael Snow, The Signpost, April 24, 2006. Accessed August 20, 2024.

[Taper-2] Taper, Bernard (17 January 1959). "Annals of Crime -- Somebody is Going to Get Hit". The New Yorker. pp. 33–71. Retrieved 9 September 2024.. The Oakland Tribune has lots of info from 1944 onward.

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