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Flag

We should have flags in infoboxes. It doesn't make any sense to not allow official flags in them. Eehuiio (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

flagcruft has been gone through a few times before in the last 15 years or more, and whether this project has a policy or not is not appreciated by the football editors who are in a world of their own, regardless... It would be interesting to see if editors involved in the discussions about flags in info boxes in the past return here, or not. JarrahTree 12:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what flags we talking about but I'm always in the opinion that provincial (and other flags) should be on infoboxes. So, I second this gesture of having flags in infoboxes. - EvoSwatch (talk) 06:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with this (as I was initially the one that directed @Eehuiio to open discussion here regarding past consensus about flags). Even if they are supposedly "little of value", provincial flags, cities and regencies flags, if have their existance proven, should be allowed to be put inside their respective infoboxes. Nyanardsan (talk) 11:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it's hard to prove their existence, that doesn't lend much credence that they are WP:DUE in an infobox. CMD (talk) 12:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The provincial flag essentially consists of the provincial logo displayed on a flag. However, a key concern lies in the background color of the flag, as it appears to vary depending on... only God knows who. Ideally, if there were regulations clearly outlining the specifications for each individual provincial flag, then I would support including the flag in the infobox. Please note that despite having clear regulations, discrepancies can still arise, as evidenced by the case of "Papua Pegunungan," where the regulations specify a green background color, while the flag available on Commons displays a yellow background color. Ckfasdf (talk) 02:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://papuadalamberita.com/mendagri-lantik-ali-baham-temongmere-jadi-penjabat-gubernur-papua-barat/

That should confirm all of them. Eehuiio (talk) 23:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. I had trouble identifying most provincial flags in the picture, and the discrepancy issue I mentioned earlier still hasn't been resolved. Ckfasdf (talk) 00:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll help. Left to right:

Bold = correct, and on wiki already.

Bold & Italic = minor discrepancies but still correct. (e.g. Sumatra Selatan different shade of green or Coat of Arms look different)

Italic = Incorrect. (e.g. wrong colour entirely)

I think the correct ones that we already have in Wikimedia could be used in infoboxes.

Sources: [1][2][3]

- EvoSwatch (talk) 03:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EvoSwatch: I've created a table for flag verification on my sandbox page. We can use it to verify all provincial flags. Once all flags are reviewed, we can revisit our previous discussion. How does that sound? 09:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds great! - EvoSwatch (talk) 15:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source dispute on Djong (ship) Talk Page

I have request RfC Talk:Djong (ship) on a "History and geography" request for comment. Anyone interested can give their comments and review the evidence presented by me and Nitekuzee, thank you! Merzostin (talk) 10:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“lakipadada” or “lakipadaja”

Never mind - these are Micronesian, and their article is Marshall Islands stick chart. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 21:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Can anyone here help me with the historical charts called “lakipadada” or “lakipadaja” (primarily from Sulawesi) that I asked about here? ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC) There is an article at id:Lakipadada, but that seems to be a different topic. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 18:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nartosabdo

Hi, I'm trying to draft an article about Ki Nartosabdo but, not being an Indonesian or Javanese speaker, I'm not clear on spellings. What's the preferred spelling? jv.wikipedia has Narto Sabdo but id.wikipedia has Nartosabdo, and some sources have Nartosabdho. Similarly what about Sunarto vs Soenarto? AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 15:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AlmostReadytoFly:, For article title, I believe we can refer to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Indonesia-related articles#Names which states For dead people, whichever name is the most common in English-language discussions should be used. And according to Google trend data, it seems "Narto Sabdo" is more commonly used. However, we can put all three spelling name in the article itself, like in Sukarno and Suharto. Just FYI, Nartosabdo's tombstone uses "Nartosabdho". Ckfasdf (talk) 23:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to the 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest

Hello, everyone! I'd like to invite you all to sign up for the upcoming 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. The event runs from July 1 to September 30 and signups close on July 15. The WikiContest focuses on developing countries, which Indonesia is a part of. The intention is to improve the English Wikipedia's coverage and comprehension of articles related to developing countries. For this reason, you may also expect that articles related to Indonesia may be heavily edited during the contest. More information on how points will be awarded can be found at Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring. For comments or suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Wikipedia talk:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. Thank you! (Copied with permission of Chlod) CMD (talk) 12:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merger discussion for Committee of Nine (Indonesia)

Hi everyone - It would be great to get some more eyes on the merge discussion at Talk:Jakarta Charter#Merge proposal. The proposed merge (of Committee of Nine (Indonesia) into the main Jakarta Charter article) could use some more opinions. Hope to see you over there. Ckfasdf (talk) 22:13, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sad news

With regret, I bring the news that User:Hanif Al Husaini has recently passed away. He had listed himself as a participant of this Wikiproject. You can leave comments on User talk:Hanif Al Husaini. starship .paint (RUN) 01:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Name of Candra Wijaya

Hi, the article Candra Wijaya has a hatnote which claims that this individuals family name is "Candra Wijaya", is this accurate? Are they a single double family name or a case of two family names used by a person? The Wikidata item for the individual seems to treat "Candra" as a given name. ★Trekker (talk) 17:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Related discussion regarding Indonesian names

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anthroponymy#How_to_categorize_surnames_that_aren't_really_surnames? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesian place at AfD

There is an ongoing deletion discussion concerning a place in Indonesia. The article has no sources, but I see that the Indonesian Wikipedia version of the article has some. Could someone add these to the English article to save it from deletion? Un assiolo (talk) 23:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One is an unrelated list of provinces which won't help. The other is a statistics publication which while useful won't help with notability. A couple of better sources have been shared at the AfD already, although more would be useful. CMD (talk) 00:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The major problem was that about 2012 a large number of stubs were created for lower level places in Jakarta and other places in Indonesia, and they stayed more less untouched. The next level up - the Cengkareng and similar articles are - as far as the problem of notability and verifiability is concerned, covered by associations with historical events within their area, that can be verified. As the editing in the Jakarta lower level locations has never been systematically reviewed, it is likely that a process of deciding either here or whereever, should consider whether low level stubs are justifiable for Jakarta or not. There would have been a particular pertinent perspective on a capital that is being possibly supplanted by the Kalimantan location in the future, to gain a snapshot of the governance and administrative structure of the country capital, while it still is that, if it remains capital or not. JarrahTree 02:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, Duri Kosambi has 100,000 people - not exactly hard to expect something and it's not like it's a kelurahan in some kabupaten town. I will see if I can expand the article later. Juxlos (talk) 10:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am inclined to support deletion, as I believe there is hardly anything notable in a "kelurahan"-level article. Even on idwiki, the content typically consists solely of geographical location and demographic information. This information could be more appropriately included in a "kecamatan"-level article. Ckfasdf (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Nusantara (city)#Requested move 16 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Nusantara (city)#Requested move 16 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 16:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WikiProject Oral tradition

Would people be interested in joining a wikiproject on improving and creating articles about oral tradition? Wikipedia's coverage on this appears to be very poor Kowal2701 (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also think it's a subject that needs expanding, sadly I'm not expert myself.★Trekker (talk) 20:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm only an amateur and am new to it, you don't need any expertise. If other people are interested I'd like to have key resources on the main page for people to learn about it. Jan Vansina's book Oral tradition as history [4] is probably the best place to start for a general understanding Kowal2701 (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll check it out.★Trekker (talk) 22:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sulawesi Separatist Movement

Does anyone know if this flag even legit? Flag of Sulawesi Separatist Movement

I can't seem to find any information about the supposed "Sulawesi Separatist Movement" let alone any use of said flag. The only reference I could find is This but I don't think it's reliable and/or credible enough.

If it's fictional I recommend taking it off from pages such as: List of Indonesian flags EvoSwatch (talk) 09:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen a lot of dubious "historical" or "separatist flags" lately and many seems to be traced back to crwflags.com. I'm not familiar with the website, is it considered WP:RS? Unlike problems with provincial/city flags, these are harder to verify. Nyanardsan (talk) 17:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uncertainty, and lack of anything to WP:VERIFY please remove... JarrahTree 15:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kertanegara requested move

I have started a move proposal at Talk:Kertanegara of Singhasari. Please participate in it. Neocorelight (Talk) 23:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Territorial Commands translations

As of now I'm not suggesting changing or anything, though I'm intrigued to hear what you guys might say.

Translations and its official counterpart according to "The Military English Handbook" published by the Army Personnel Staff, October 2012. pp. 40, 46.

Kodam / Military Regional Command => Military Area Command

Korem / Military Resort Command => Military Subarea Command

Kodim / Military District Command => Military District Command

Koramil / Military Rayon Command => Military Subdistrict Command

Babinsa / Village Trustee NCO => Village Management Senior NCO

Both are correct translations, but I'm interested in you guys opinion on the matter. And yes 'Rayon' is real word. - EvoSwatch (talk) 15:13, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:RSUEQ Translations published by reliable sources are preferred over translations by Wikipedians. And IMO, official translation can be considered as reliable source. Therefore, I have no objection if we change the translations for Indonesian military terms. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Open invitation for UI students

Inviting all active students at the University of Indonesia who have actively edited Wikipedia/its sister project in the past or present to join the Universitas Indonesia wiki community here. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Ucu Agustin

Ucu Agustin has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Batik

Batik has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 00:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of each Regency on Indonesia is it better to delete it or not?

Yesterday (around the end of July) I was going to remove all the flags in every Regency in Indonesia (maybe not qualified as WP:V), well there are several flags that already have regional regulations but it doesn't clearly state what the flags are like (for example backgrounds, shields, etc.) like this archive. For this reason, is it better to just remove the flag in each Regency or not? considering that the regional regulations in each district do not specifically mention it. Baqotun0023 (talk) 05:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the flag meets the verifiability policy, then I see no reason to exclude it from the article. How do we determine that it meets the verifiability policy?

There is a specific regulation governing the flag of the regency or city, such as West Bandung Regency.
The official website of the city or regency explicitly mentions their flag, such as Bandung City.
We can find an image of the flag displayed at the regency or city office, such as in Depok City (on this image, the flag of Depok is clearly visible behind the mayor of Depok).
We can find an image of the flag held by the regency or city contingent at a sports event, such as the Bogor City flag (on this image and this image, the flag of Bogor City is clearly carried by the Bogor City sports contingent.)

Note that I plan to use the same approach for the provincial flag discussion. Ckfasdf (talk) 03:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, the only reasons to exclude a flag would be if it is completely unsourced—no regulation, no mention on the official website, no image from the regency or city office, essentially no reliable information—or if the available sources conflict with each other. For example, if the regulation states the flag background is black, the official website says it's green, and an image at the regency or city office shows a white background. In short, the reason would be that it fails the verifiability policy. Ckfasdf (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue of flagcruft and blatant overuse in the delightful field of football/soccer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Football_in_Indonesia) is a separate subject obviously, but interesting that the material can be utilised to assist the issue raised above.

it is commendable that there is an effort to clarify and verify for purposes of what wp:en has in relation to WP:V. JarrahTree 03:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Green's October 2024 edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Indonesia:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 11:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any locally produced sources for Boho, North Sumatra?

Hi, any Indonesian speakers would be able to locate any sources describing this village in Indonesian for Boho, North Sumatra? If not, might need to merge this article within another Indonesia related article and quote info from the source currently added. Much of the current info in the article, while interesting, is not reflected in the current source. Thanks Saussure4661 (talk) 16:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking as someone with a lot of affection for the Lake Toba area, does a village that small need a wikipedia article? Dan Carkner (talk) 16:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources? Central Kalimantan Today and Voice of Indonesia

Hello WP Indonesia, I'm hoping someone familiar with Indonesia & its media landscape can help me identify whether or not either Central Kalimantan Today (located at https://kaltimtoday.co/) or The Voice of Indonesia (located at https://voi.id/en) are WP:RELIABLESOURCES; the "Entertainment" sections in specific.

I checked at Wikipedia:WikiProject Indonesia/Resources but didn't see much as far as a comprehensive list of Indonesian sources that are known to be reliable similar to the one for Korea.

Thanks! RachelTensions (talk) 21:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RachelTensions: As an Indonesian, I had not heard of Kaltim Today before. It seems to be a local or regional news outlet that primarily covers topics related to East Kalimantan (with 'Kaltim' being short for Kalimantan Timur, and 'Timur' meaning 'East' in Indonesian). Their reporters are listed as members of the Indonesian Journalists Association, and their website mentions a fact-checking process and editorial oversight, which suggests they might meet the criteria for a credible news organization under WP:NEWSORG. However, I would advise using sources with broader, national coverage instead.

In contrast, Voi.id is a nationally recognized news outlet with a more established reputation and a larger team of reporters. I believe it qualifies as a reliable source per WP:NEWSORG. Ckfasdf (talk) 22:12, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is this? Self insert?

It has come to my attention there is a wikipage that contains seemingly fabricated if not fictitious data, and I think we should do something about it.

The page: Rantastia Nur Alangan

it's similar to Rangga Sasana but the wording on that page seems like it's presenting itself as 'factual' and I think this is dangerous to the credibility of idwiki.

″former military attaché of the Royal Prussian Order in Indonesia based in Russia. Rantastia was also promoted to General Oberst.″

I don't think it's appropriate for a wikipedia page. Feels a lot like a "schizo posting" for a lack of a better term than an actual article. - EvoSwatch (talk) 14:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is english wikipedia - and as such we have no capacity to deal with the id wiki -

you should take your concern to members of https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pengurus JarrahTree 14:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, thanks. - EvoSwatch (talk) 15:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]