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The last two entries are a fairly clear case of MOS:DABNOMENTION, to paraphrase that portion of the MOS, if there is no linked article at all it is not a valid entry. If for whatever reason you believe an exception should be made to the MOS then get consensus for it over at WT:DAB. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:958E:AFEC:E516:F954 (talk) 14:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid argument. Ekco cloud is mentioned on Don Robert, chair of both Ekco and the London Stock Exchange. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 14:28, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Davidstewartharvey, did you read the linked section? to be a valid entry a link must be included, and you still have not included one despite having the guideline linked to you multiple times. Also note that you have made 3 revert in the last 24 hours, patrolling admins at WP:AN/EW tend to look unkindly on people who edit-war against the MOS without reading it. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:958E:AFEC:E516:F954 (talk) 14:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The wording to MOS:DABNOMENTION states "then a link to that article may be included if it would provide value to the reader". May is the operative word, there is no requirement. In addition, EKCO Housewares has a whole section in Correlle Brands. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 15:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is not what it says and I will quote it directly, "If flibbygibby is not mentioned in the noodle article, or there is no linked article at all, as in the toy example, it is not a valid entry; therefore, only the entry for the architectural motif can include a red link." All entries must have links, the portion you cite is from MOS:DABMENTION, and you omitted the key point "it should still be the only blue wikilink". So there is in fact a requirement, and selective quoting from a section different from that which you linked is not helping your case. Indeed the "may" here is refering to the entry in its entirety and the context makes that absolutely clear, so contra your assertion, what the MOS actually instructs is that even if such a link is available such entries may nonetheless be excluded. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:55E8:EEFB:BF44:B412 (talk) 15:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As to the second portion User:Davidstewartharvey, the actual mention is primarily to "EKCO Products Company" and its derivatives, that entry should be reformatted if it is to remain. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:55E8:EEFB:BF44:B412 (talk) 15:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also note that while a valid blue link is necessary for every entry in a DAB it is not sufficient "If a topic is not mentioned in the other article, that article should not be linked to in the disambiguation page" (emphasis in original). In other words every DAB entry must have a link to a relavent article where it is mentioned as the bare minimum standard for inclusion, and consensus can and sometimes will dictate that such entries nonetheless be removed. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:55E8:EEFB:BF44:B412 (talk) 16:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Taking a closer look, the EKCO Housewares Company entry also violates MOS:DABNOMENTION and MOS:DABPIPING, presumably you can source a mention in the article, but if not that will also need to be removed. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:B8CC:8F1:A6EA:1C6D (talk) 14:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]